NYBOB
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Post by NYBOB on Jun 7, 2005 12:02:00 GMT -5
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Post by edge on Jun 7, 2005 12:38:51 GMT -5
Very neat! Was the jacket still on that 300 XTP?
Water has a habit of removing the jacket on non-bonded bullets.
edge.
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Post by edge on Jun 7, 2005 13:26:33 GMT -5
I had an idea, always dangerous for me, what if every few inches
you had a thin sheet of plastic ( or any non paper material).
If you shot the bullet as you did in this test and then let the
paper dry out, then you could separate the layers and have the
equivalent of a CT Scan of the bullet path. You could get dimensions
and actually draw a graph from an Excel type program.
Like I said I probably shouldn't try to think ;D
edge.
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NYBOB
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Post by NYBOB on Jun 7, 2005 13:42:18 GMT -5
There was a little jacket left on the 300XTP. It was all folded around behind the base of the lead core. Core held together very well.
Your CT scan idea is interesting, I actually saw the hole left in 3-D as I peeled the layers apart. The Barnes 250 and the plain XTP left a cavern from the word go starting at the top. 2-3 in. wide and 7-8 in deep after that only a hole the size of the expanded bullet until the depth I found it at. The XTP Mag and the Barnes spitfire left smaller holes 1-1 1/2 in. in diam but down to a depth of 12-14 in. Then they too left a hole only the size of the expanded bullet down to the depth I found them at. I could draw what I saw, but the one thing that really impressed me was the plain XTP. When I saw that hole I said "Holy ----" and then tried to find where all that "Vaporized" newspaper went to. I still don't know.
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Post by bubba on Jun 7, 2005 13:52:10 GMT -5
interesting as barnes and hornady always attempts to perfect a great product - and they do not do as well, at least shooting paper. How do you cook that stuff?  -bubba |
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Post by dave d. on Jun 7, 2005 14:17:12 GMT -5
:)bob,thank's for the pic's and great info.goodluck with whatever bullet you use on your hunt.
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Post by edge on Jun 7, 2005 17:02:57 GMT -5
I have had more time to absorb this post. While the 300 XTP and the Barnes made huge initial holes, they also tended to be MUCH shallower. A 2-3 inch wide hole and extending 8 inches MIGHT suggest a broadside or straight on shot to be best ( assuming a correlation to a deer ). A hole 1 1/2 inches in diameter but extending a foot would indicate a good wound from any direction except a "waving flag". All in all an interesting experiment  edge. There was a little jacket left on the 300XTP. It was all folded around behind the base of the lead core. Core held together very well. Your CT scan idea is interesting, I actually saw the hole left in 3-D as I peeled the layers apart. The Barnes 250 and the plain XTP left a cavern from the word go starting at the top. 2-3 in. wide and 7-8 in deep after that only a hole the size of the expanded bullet until the depth I found it at. The XTP Mag and the Barnes spitfire left smaller holes 1-1 1/2 in. in diam but down to a depth of 12-14 in. Then they too left a hole only the size of the expanded bullet down to the depth I found them at. I could draw what I saw, but the one thing that really impressed me was the plain XTP. When I saw that hole I said "Holy ----" and then tried to find where all that "Vaporized" newspaper went to. I still don't know. |
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Post by RBinAR on Jun 7, 2005 18:41:59 GMT -5
If you shot the bullet as you did in this test and then let the paper dry out, then you could separate the layers and have the equivalent of a CT Scan of the bullet path. You could get dimensions and actually draw a graph from an Excel type program. Like I said I probably shouldn't try to think ;D edge. The heck with a CAT scan let's go all the way to the MRI. I want 3D. |
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