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Post by a45gunslinger on Sept 3, 2005 21:33:06 GMT -5
what would you all think of a ramrod scale that let you apply the same pressure to seat the bullet every time??? I made one for my 10ML and it works great. Kevin
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Post by dave d. on Sept 3, 2005 22:28:45 GMT -5
:)a45gunslinger,i would say neat how did you make it?
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Post by a45gunslinger on Sept 3, 2005 23:01:21 GMT -5
It's got a graduated scale that shows how much pressure is being applied to the ramrod I'l try to post a pic of it. I made most of the parts on a lathe. It worked really well tightend my groups up , of course I haven't really done any scientific tests to see how much it actually helps.( my shooting skills won't hold up) I was going to have a buddy of mine who is a benchrest shooter do the testing for me. i'll try to post some pics...Kevin
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Post by dave d. on Sept 4, 2005 10:12:30 GMT -5
:)thank's kevin look forward to your pic's and result's.
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Post by MountainMan on Sept 6, 2005 8:34:02 GMT -5
In addition to being able to read the scale every time you load, it would probably have the added benefit of teaching you to feel what a particular amount of seating pressure feels like so that you become more consistent even without the scale. It might be that now that you have used it a bit, your groups without it will even be tighter.  |
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Post by savagebrother on Sept 6, 2005 9:01:19 GMT -5
yes, you are right on the money here. consistent seating of you bullet/sabot are very important to accuracy in the 10 ml II or any smokeless or non smokeless muzzleloader. i have used a device made for round ball gus for about 10 years now. its a stell cylinder witha piece inside that fits over your ramrod.
its spring loaded, when you push down on it as the ball seats on the powder the other end protrudes out and toy know you have X amount of pressure on the powder.
i think it is pre-set to 30 lbs.
sb
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Post by edge on Sept 6, 2005 10:44:09 GMT -5
It would be very interesting to see the velocity difference between say a 15 lb and a 45 pound pressure.
Not just avg., but extreme spreads.
edge.
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Post by MountainMan on Sept 6, 2005 11:51:14 GMT -5
It would be very interesting to see the velocity difference between say a 15 lb and a 45 pound pressure. Not just avg., but extreme spreads. edge. I would estimate that it takes 30 to 45 pounds of pressure just to move the slug and sabot down my barrel. I take it that this may be more than is always required? |
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Post by edge on Sept 6, 2005 13:24:49 GMT -5
I would estimate that it takes 30 to 45 pounds of pressure just to move the slug and sabot down my barrel. I take it that this may be more than is always required? I really meant extra pressure at the bottom. Some folks thump it which may result in much more than a steady weight applied. I assume that when the sabot stops that I give and extra 20 - 30 pounds of push to ensure that there is no more movement. edge. |
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Post by MountainMan on Sept 6, 2005 16:21:32 GMT -5
Gotcha. Wasn't trying to quibble or anything, just figure out my gun.
Thanks!
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Post by a45gunslinger on Sept 7, 2005 22:43:51 GMT -5
here's a pic of what I made I went to the range today... but forgot the darn bullets  i only had two in my shooting bag  Edge, it takes about 20 lbs to get it down a clean barrel but the testing on this would be endless . The NO.1 thing i'm looking for is consistancy in muzzle vel. I should have some data by sunday..Kevin  |
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Post by a45gunslinger on Sept 7, 2005 22:51:05 GMT -5
sorry the pic is so large
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Post by dave d. on Sept 8, 2005 15:16:43 GMT -5
:)kevin,thank's for the pic look forward to hearing your result's.
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i only had two in my shooting bag 