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Post by hunter on Jan 10, 2009 13:07:41 GMT -5
I have two of the early ml-ll's with the qla feature on the barrels. Does this have any negative effects on accuracy, muzzle velocity, ect? It seams there are different opinions on this matter. I like the feature for loading purposes. Any and all opinions welcome.
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Post by smokeeter on Jan 10, 2009 14:33:31 GMT -5
The only negative effect was with those that were not drilled true, some were off center of the bore and this seemed to effect accuracy. I'm sure they would still be manufactured if Savage didn't infringe upon Thompsons patent.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jan 10, 2009 15:26:44 GMT -5
I have two of the early ml-ll's with the qla feature on the barrels. Does this have any negative effects on accuracy, muzzle velocity, ect? It seams there are different opinions on this matter. I like the feature for loading purposes. Any and all opinions welcome. Would you like to sell them to me?
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Post by jims on Jan 10, 2009 15:28:02 GMT -5
I have the QLA on my first Savage. I like the feature and my barrel shoots very well.
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Post by rossman40 on Jan 10, 2009 16:03:17 GMT -5
I have to agree Smokeeter. I also think that very few were perfect. If you looked down the bore you should just see the tops of the lands because all that was removed was the lands, or at least most of the lands. Allmost all the ones I have seen you will see a ring or step where the cutter was crooked and cut below the groove. On mine I have about 90 degree area at the top where I have a slight step of a .001-.002" at the most in the center. I seen one where it was like the thickness of a land and almost a half circle. The owner did contact Savage and they did fix it by putting on a barrel without the QLA. Some guys resorted to cutting 2" off the barrel. IIRC TB told me that Savage was willing to pay a licensing fee to TC but it was at a time when both Knight, TC and others were trying their best to squash the 10ML.
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Post by mshm99 on Jan 10, 2009 16:32:06 GMT -5
I've had my QLA MLII since January 2002. I've taken my farthest deer this year at 235 lasered yards. Many more at or around two hundred. I'd say it has worked pretty well for me. That said, close examination of the QLA with magnifying glass gives one the impression the work was done in a muffler shop. Being a believer in the saying " Beauty is as beauty does" it is beautiful in its function. mshm
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Post by richard on Jan 10, 2009 20:14:44 GMT -5
Well, it sure is no big deal to convert to QLA! As a matter of fact, you now have me thinking. I bought that blued ML from Kevin B with two barrels. I just might put one in the lathe and bore out the rifling Richard
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Post by youp50 on Jan 10, 2009 22:06:53 GMT -5
I have a 1% barrel, it has the QLA and fiber optic sights. When other brand shooters are at the range and see the 100 yard shots that are touching they shake their heads.
My QLA is not true. Perhaps the accuracy is not badly affected because only the lands are cut crooked, with no metal removed from the grooves.
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Post by hunter on Jan 12, 2009 7:28:58 GMT -5
I have not shot the blued model very much. As soon as I get time I will take it to the range and try a few different combo's with it. I had wanted a shorter barrel and thought if the qla feature hurt accuracy or caused lost velosity that I could remove a couple inches of barrel length and not loose much in either feild. If it shots well I will leave it as is.
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Post by youp50 on Jan 12, 2009 13:25:57 GMT -5
If it shots well I will leave it as is.
That is one of the most ignored statements around. "If its not broke, don't fix it!"
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Post by richard on Jan 12, 2009 21:43:20 GMT -5
Done deal! I put the QLA feature in the barrel. Unfortunately I will not get a chance to shoot it this week as I am in the process of bedding the thumbhhole it is going into and am awaiting a new Rifle Basix trigger and 1 1/8 kick-eze recoil pad. Next week! Richard
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