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Post by elzorro38 on Dec 13, 2006 22:33:35 GMT -5
I have one of the original ML10 models and I am wondering if this will become a collectors item someday since it was only in production for a year or two. Does anyone know how many of these were made ? My Sn# is in the low 5000s.
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Post by KerryB on Dec 13, 2006 22:58:17 GMT -5
It will never be worth sh*t! I'll give ya $100 for it! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by RBinAR on Dec 13, 2006 23:17:40 GMT -5
I have one of the original ML10 models and I am wondering if this will become a collectors item someday since it was only in production for a year or two. Does anyone know how many of these were made ? My Sn# is in the low 5000s. Could be but like all collectibles it will be woth a lot more (if it becomes a collectible) if it's new in the box. If new in the box is not an option then the less wear the better, fewer shots means more money.
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Post by 1SHOT1KILL on Dec 14, 2006 9:54:48 GMT -5
The serial numbers for the 10ML started at 5,000. There were only about 4,900 - 5,000 10ML's made. I could get you an exact number, if need be, as I have those records on file. I am still rather found of the type I 10ML. Savage had issues with the percussion modules, as in not being able to keep them in tolernance for a fit and since the bolt had locking lugs it required the ATF form 4473. So we and Savage modified it into the 10ML-II.
IMO all things being equal, a 10ML with correct fititng modules will shoot as good if not better than a 10ML-II. I still use percussion modules on all my custom smokeless muzzleloaders, like my Rem. #2 Rolling Block, Howa, Sako, Mini-Mark X Mauser, Martini-Enfield, and Win. M-94.
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Post by mike3132 on Dec 14, 2006 10:03:26 GMT -5
I'm quite proud of my 10 ML. Ive got 25 extra modules, 40 ventliners and one extra breech plug. This was my first 10 ML and its been the best one. Its a shooter with just about any bullet and powder combination i put in it. Thanks Henry and Bill for designing such a fine weapon. mike
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Post by edge on Dec 14, 2006 10:25:27 GMT -5
IMO, if I wanted to build a 45 off of the ML, I would use the 10ML. Real locking lugs, and no @#$%^%$# rear action screw to deal with My 45 was built on a Savage 110 action and Dave built his on a Remington 700. 1SHOT1KILL could probably tell you the barrel/action threads on the 10ML, which are NOT the same as on the ML-II. They may just be large shank barrels but I really don't know. Our breechplugs use a 45 acp for the primer, but modified to hold a 209. edge.
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Post by spade on Dec 14, 2006 15:58:47 GMT -5
I suspect that any over the counter firearm will become a collectors item in 50 years. I'm 65 years old and I can hardly wait for my Savage ML10 to become collectable.
I have a buddy my age who collects antique Winchester lever guns. He shoots them all. Who deserves to enjoy the firearms more than we do?
Remember, The good old days are right now.
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Post by KerryB on Dec 14, 2006 17:28:39 GMT -5
Dang it! Quit telling elzorro38 what a great rifle he has............now i'm never gonna get it for $100! ;D
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Post by dave d. on Dec 14, 2006 17:40:28 GMT -5
:)ihave a unfired low serial # ml1 which will never be fired,i'm really not keeping it to make money off it but just wanted to have one put away.i had another ml1 which was sent back to savage for a bulged barrel that was never returned to me (savage sent me back a ml2).like edge has pointed out i decided to build my own gun off a remintgon action to have a true centerfire action(love the quick release bolt and locking lugs).imo the first model was the best.
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Post by redneckrob on Dec 14, 2006 17:59:04 GMT -5
my 10 ml 1 is below 5800,
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Post by 1SHOT1KILL on Dec 14, 2006 18:25:48 GMT -5
Mine are 5034, 5035, and 2 prototypes with QA serial numbers.
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Post by clintsfolly on Dec 14, 2006 18:42:32 GMT -5
I have #6149 luv an shoot it clint
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Post by Rifleman on Dec 16, 2006 4:32:31 GMT -5
Well boys if the Democrats have their way the only gun you will be able to own will be a muzzleloader. No wait I am wrong, a BB gun. No wait I am still wrong, no guns at all, must use archery. No wait I am still wrong, they won't be happy until we are totally unarmed and at their mercy.
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Post by HighTeckRedneck on Dec 16, 2006 6:39:03 GMT -5
I know where I can pick up another lightly used (less than 100 shots fired) original 10ML with Waren quick release rings/bases and a Burris 2-10X40 scope for $400. As soon as I get some other stuff paid off I am probably going to add it to my smokeless ML collection. When that happens the original 10 ML that I already have will get put up and not used for sentimental reasons. Then the new one will get some modifications.
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Post by KerryB on Dec 16, 2006 10:11:13 GMT -5
HighTechRedneck, Where exactly is that 10ML with the Burris located at? I promise i won't try to buy it. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by mike3132 on Dec 16, 2006 10:50:44 GMT -5
My 10 ML I is 5819. I bought it new in March of 2001. mike
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Post by Blue-Dot-37.5 on Dec 16, 2006 11:13:08 GMT -5
I've got 2 of the ML-I's 5130 and 5300. The 5300 was NIB when I bought it, and the pieces/parts are still in the sealed plastic bags.
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Post by dave d. on Dec 16, 2006 11:26:57 GMT -5
:)bluedot the one you turned me on to is the same way nib everything sealed and that's the way it's staying.i believe it is #5268 .thank's
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Post by Blue-Dot-37.5 on Dec 16, 2006 11:35:19 GMT -5
Dave:
Same gun shop! ;D
I didn't think to look at the serial #'s when I bought mine.......
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Post by HighTeckRedneck on Dec 16, 2006 12:59:48 GMT -5
HighTechRedneck, Where exactly is that 10ML with the Burris located at? I promise i won't try to buy it. ;D ;D ;D To be exact it is in a gun safe, in a garage just outside of Shoals Indiana. Good luck findining it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by KerryB on Dec 16, 2006 16:47:14 GMT -5
Man! Your brutal! ;D
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Post by HighTeckRedneck on Dec 16, 2006 20:05:42 GMT -5
Like I said as soon as I get some stuff paid off it will be mine, or at least I hope that he still has it when I feal like I can spend $400 on anoter rifle that I honestly don't need. With any luck when I do my taxes I'll get about that much to play
The serial # on the one I have is 5512, and the # on this other one should be within 2 of that because he ordered mine, his, and another at the same time. As far as the value of the one I currently have goes I could care less about the monitary value however I would like to be able to put it up and not abuse it anymore. It and my lifetime hunting license were the last 2 things that my grandmother baught for me. That alone makes it priceless to me
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Post by KerryB on Dec 16, 2006 21:15:48 GMT -5
I sure hope you get it buddy. I have a few items like that and they are priceless for sure! Kind regards, Kerry
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Post by Mel Taylor on Dec 28, 2006 17:19:18 GMT -5
I've got number 5361 and even though I don't shoot it very often anymore, I still prefer it over the ML-II.
My first venture into frontloading was with the original ML and I have a certain sentimental attachment to it. It now enjoys a place of honor in my gun cabinet and is only taken out for special occasions. I delight in telling someone that "this is the design that started the smokeless muzzleloading revolution and led me into muzzleloading."
My wife, who loves to hunt elk but doesn't care about hunting anything else finally agreed to apply for a MZ cow elk hunt this next year (she has always gone for centerfire rifle before) so I suppose she will use my ML and I will use the ML-II if we get permits.
Mel
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Post by MountainMan on Dec 28, 2006 18:33:57 GMT -5
Well boys if the Democrats have their way the only gun you will be able to own will be a muzzleloader. No wait I am wrong, a BB gun. No wait I am still wrong, no guns at all, must use archery. No wait I am still wrong, they won't be happy until we are totally unarmed and at their mercy. Ain't that the truth.
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