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.17 HMR
Mar 12, 2005 16:55:58 GMT -5
Post by Jeremy on Mar 12, 2005 16:55:58 GMT -5
Howdy boys!
I just picked up a Savage 93 in 17HMR. Just wondering what your experiences have been like with this caliber in general and this particular rifle as well.
Any help or info that you can provide would be appreciated. ;D
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.17 HMR
Mar 12, 2005 17:48:53 GMT -5
Post by ABinMD on Mar 12, 2005 17:48:53 GMT -5
Hey Jeremy, how ya doin. I have a stainless model, a tack-driver too! Have only shot a few groundhogs with it last year to about 88 yards. I love that little rifle. Some one posted about the .17 HMR last year I think. You may want to look back thru the posts, I think you'll find something on it. I believe you can get bullets in 20gr. also. Al
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.17 HMR
Mar 13, 2005 19:35:56 GMT -5
Post by whyohe on Mar 13, 2005 19:35:56 GMT -5
jeromy youll love the cal. i have it ina marlin. and its a tac driver too. yes ABinMD you can get a 20 grn bullet by hornady only right nowand i love it..
ive shot ground hogs at 170 yds w/17 grn bullet and drop them but bullet placement is important. play with and practice and youll love it jeromy
oh and check out dougs post earlier in thus forum in this cal a couple posts back.
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.17 HMR
Mar 13, 2005 22:06:48 GMT -5
Post by Jeremy on Mar 13, 2005 22:06:48 GMT -5
So far, from the immense amount of reading I have been doing, I have heard one thing over and over: [glow=red,2,300]Very, Very few people have trouble with accuracy.[/glow] This seems to be a very accurate cartridge (regardless of gun maker) and that is OK with me Lots of people are not happy with the Savage triggers (myself included). I guess I will have to fork out the extra $$$ for a rifle basix trigger. I am a little disappointed that the gun came with such a poor trigger. Other than that - I am impressed with what I have read so far. It's gonna be a fun summer for me ;D
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.17 HMR
Sept 26, 2005 11:40:46 GMT -5
Post by IndianaHunter on Sept 26, 2005 11:40:46 GMT -5
Howdy boys! I just picked up a Savage 93 in 17HMR. Just wondering what your experiences have been like with this caliber in general and this particular rifle as well. Any help or info that you can provide would be appreciated. ;D I just picked one up myself and toped it with a Burris 4.5 x 14 x 56...It should be a shooter if I can reduce the trigger pull...
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.17 HMR
Sept 26, 2005 12:32:45 GMT -5
Post by Jeremy on Sept 26, 2005 12:32:45 GMT -5
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.17 HMR
Sept 26, 2005 13:33:28 GMT -5
Post by IndianaHunter on Sept 26, 2005 13:33:28 GMT -5
What exactly does this do? What holds it in place?
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.17 HMR
Sept 26, 2005 16:04:30 GMT -5
Post by Jeremy on Sept 26, 2005 16:04:30 GMT -5
You loosen the back screw (or post or whatever you want to call it), insert your shim between the action and the trigger group that the screw hold in place, and tighten everything back up. It reduces the engagement of the sear. It'll give you less trigger travel and a considerable trigger weight reduction, all for about 1 dollar and 20 minutes of your time. Just make sure that everything is safe after you put things back together. Close the bolt (no ammo of course) and try every which way to make the gun go off. Smack it, bump it against the ground, move the safety back and forth, slam the bolt shut as fast as ya can, etc.
I would give it a shot before ordering a SSS triger or the like. You can always remove the shim and revert to your "factory" trigger.
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.17 HMR
Dec 15, 2005 17:40:00 GMT -5
Post by george1 on Dec 15, 2005 17:40:00 GMT -5
I got a 93 BVSS and just love it. 50 yard groups are 1& 1/2 holes. I have had 100 yard groups smaller than a dime. I did however put a Rifle Basix trigger in it. Made a world of difference over the stock trigger. Just a fun little gun to shoot.
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.17 HMR
Dec 23, 2006 18:59:42 GMT -5
Post by varmint1111 on Dec 23, 2006 18:59:42 GMT -5
I have a .17 hmr in a savage heavy barrell. great gun. the factory trigger sucked installed the rifle basix trigger kit it is worth the money. i shot a racoon with it through the lungs at 102 yards, the bullet was a 17 grain v-max ,it past compleatly through ! great for crows also.
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.17 HMR
Mar 20, 2007 10:47:00 GMT -5
Post by ozark on Mar 20, 2007 10:47:00 GMT -5
I have fired my Marlin 917V very little. I have a 2X7 Leupold scope mounted on it. Scope doesn't seem a clear as I would like but managable. I have focused the cross hairs to be distinct buy still it is not real clear. Yesterday I fired it a few times and it appears to be accurate. Using a 17 Grain V-Max I found that the impact impacting dead on at 50 yards bullet flight was such that it was dead on at 160 yards. That is pretty good in my opinion. This means It would be a little high at 100. My target was a 50 Lb. mineral salt block which is about a foot square new. I figured that the bullet might split the block but it just created an indent of about 1 inch circle. I guess it just splattered on contact which might not be a good bullet for coyotes. Would appreciate any suggestions on accurate bullets that might be suitable penetration wise on coyotes. A friend of mine told me he had to shoot a cow five times in the head using full metal jackets to put it out. That surprised me. I installed a rifle basix trigger and love shooting this little cartridge and can understand why it has become popular. For many many years the ultimate in accuracy and for small game hunting has been the .22 Cal. long rifle. Now, I am not that sure it is still supreme.
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.17 HMR
Mar 31, 2007 22:09:11 GMT -5
Post by ozark on Mar 31, 2007 22:09:11 GMT -5
Sorry for submitting two post in a row on this thread but I have been putting my rifle through the paces to determine if it is for real or a passing fad. It is for real. I have taken pests out to 180 yards, have used the 20 grain FMJ, the XTP and the V-Max. There is a new pest here in Arkansas that local farmers are calling the Mexican Buzzard. It has been caught pecking the eyes out of new born calves. I don't know what the authorities are going to decide on the legality of shooting it on sight but I do know that it has quickly developed a bad reputation. Anyway, I can report that the .17 Cal. is an effective and powerful little gem out to 180 yards. I love the flat trajectory, accuracy and the explosive nature of the bullet. If you shooters don't have one in your closet or vault then you probably should have. I am somewhat late on jumping on this success story of a caliber but I am happy to be on it now. It perfectly fills the gap between the normal .22 LR/Mag. and the .223 or 22-250.
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.17 HMR
Apr 13, 2007 5:24:29 GMT -5
Post by herman on Apr 13, 2007 5:24:29 GMT -5
Jeremy,Hope yours shoots better than the one I got does.I got mine last year to play with at the range and It hasn't been anything near a tack driver.It came with the barrel free floated ,accura-trigger set at 3lbs I have tried every brand of ammo in it,tried 2 different scopes on it,one shot will be where you're aiming the next may be in the next county. Mine is the savage 93 also.Blue with black fiber stock. Will add a target how mine shot this past tuesday at 100 yds. Fellows are there anything special to get these to shoot? Such as cleaning after x number of shots and etc??
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.17 HMR
Apr 13, 2007 8:45:53 GMT -5
Post by bubba on Apr 13, 2007 8:45:53 GMT -5
I would clean it well, that little 17cal bore cruds up pretty quick !
-bubba
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.17 HMR
Apr 13, 2007 13:06:46 GMT -5
Post by whyohe on Apr 13, 2007 13:06:46 GMT -5
herman what was the wind like? it doesnt take much of a breeze to blow that little bullet around.
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.17 HMR
Apr 15, 2007 19:41:35 GMT -5
Post by herman on Apr 15, 2007 19:41:35 GMT -5
there was little or no wind when I shot,I did give it one heck of a cleaning so I can try it again.I have tried every mfg on bullets hornady,rem,cci,and winchester.The hornady v-maxes has shot the best so far. Will probably never hunt anything with it,just got it to play with at the range.My buddie and I shoot at clay birds at 200 and 300 yds after shooting our reg rifles.Last tuesday I lucked out and hit 4 in a row at 300 then shot at a dot and the bullet struck 2 ft low.Would like to get it to shoot good at 100 yds tho. Looked at the site on the trigger shims but looks like these are the older triggers,I have the accru-trigger on mine.Does the shim work on either??
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.17 HMR
Apr 19, 2007 5:55:43 GMT -5
Post by herman on Apr 19, 2007 5:55:43 GMT -5
Tried the 17 again tuesday after cleaning but still just sprayed the shots so decided to try a pressure point under the forearm and that did give me 2 five shot groups at 100 yds of 2 inches.I just took a empty ammo box and stuffed it under the barrel.Looks like that may have been the problem.Going to cut a piece of cardboard so I can move it around and see what that does.The bullets I used were 5 hornady v-max and cci hp and both groups looked all most identical????Then I ran out of bullets.
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.17 HMR
Apr 19, 2007 14:41:19 GMT -5
Post by whyohe on Apr 19, 2007 14:41:19 GMT -5
herman how new is the gun? if its new id maybe send it back to savage or give their customer service a call. it really should shoot alot better than that IMHO.
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.17 HMR
Apr 20, 2007 8:12:25 GMT -5
Post by herman on Apr 20, 2007 8:12:25 GMT -5
Whyohe,I just bought it last summer,it has the new accru-trigger so it must be sort of new design.It has the barrel really free floated I can slide several layers of paper all the way down the barrel.The scope is a lepould 4x12 that lepould checked and said it was good.but going to try another scope on it just to see. My buddies nef was shooting great tuesday by just looking at his targets ,looked like he got some groups at 300 yds about 2 to 3 inches. He was useing the winchester 17 gr hmrs in it.
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.17 HMR
Apr 20, 2007 11:19:19 GMT -5
Post by whyohe on Apr 20, 2007 11:19:19 GMT -5
herman i hope you can find and solve your problem. the cartridge is very fun to shoot.
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.17 HMR
May 1, 2007 18:26:54 GMT -5
Post by herman on May 1, 2007 18:26:54 GMT -5
Finally got the savage shooting with consistantce( spelling?) I took 3 bussiness cards and had to fold 2 of the in half and put them between the barrel and foreend.Just slid it back to where it was tight about 2 inches past the sling swivel.Shot 10 CCI HP bullets and could cover 9 of the 10 with a 50 cent piece,I did try moving it forward close to the end of the foreend and the group got worse so moved it back,then guessed at the scope setting for 200 yds shot 2 birds in a row,then moved to 300 took awhile to get it zerroed on a clay bird but after getting it on was giving them a hard time even hiting the pieces that had broken off from the hit before.The ones I missed I still hit close to in the dirt.I didn't have a one that shot 2 ft high or 4 ft low.Think I got it going now. Shot one bullet over my chrony and got 2626 fps.
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.17 HMR
May 1, 2007 19:50:54 GMT -5
Post by whyohe on May 1, 2007 19:50:54 GMT -5
congrats im glad you got it figured out .maybe if you call savage with that info they can help you with a new stock or bedding or some thing. i wouldnt want credit cards stuffed under my barrel. BUT..... if its shooting dont mess huh.
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Post by whyohe on Jun 1, 2007 9:41:58 GMT -5
out at the range warming up for ground hogs but had 8 mph swirling and gusting winds made it difficult. this was at 100 yards. here is pic. for got to grab 30 yard target but was one ragged hole. not to bad with the wind IMO
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.17 HMR
Jun 3, 2007 12:09:48 GMT -5
Post by DannoBoone on Jun 3, 2007 12:09:48 GMT -5
Everything about this delightful little round is fantastic, save the cost of ammo. Thought it would have gone down more by now.....I can reload smaller CF cheaper than HMR rounds can be bought.
However, even safely loaded CF cartridges cannot be used for small game in Iowa, and I have made some pretty fantastic shots with the Marlin .17 HMR. A couple of crows have fallen to it at 165 yards. It's also accurate enough to pop squirrels or rabbits in the head at 100 yds. Starlings invade my emu feeders in the winter, and I cannot begin to calculate how many of them I have gotten with the .17. When huddled together around the feeders, I usually get multiple thieves.
My initial sight-in resulted in a 1/4" and 3/8" group @ 75yds, and from there on there is nothing I have done to it other than shoot it. Sooner or later the barrel WILL need to be cleaned but many on another board have said they are known to need a few shots through them to get back into accuracy after barrel cleaning.
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.17 HMR
Jun 3, 2007 19:10:13 GMT -5
Post by ozark on Jun 3, 2007 19:10:13 GMT -5
My .17 Cal. Marlin is also a tack driver and I enjoy taking small pests with it. But I still have a problem with extraction if I attempt it immediately after firing. It is as if the shot expands the casing to bind it and then cools off in a few seconds retract and come out easily. I don't yet know what I will have to do. May ask marlin to send me another extractor hoping that it will grip the rim harder. Otherwise it is all thumbs up.
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.17 HMR
Jun 6, 2007 14:05:43 GMT -5
Post by ozark on Jun 6, 2007 14:05:43 GMT -5
I just got off the telephone with a lady working for Marlin. Was told that I wasn't the only person with extraction problems and that the cure was replacing the extractor. Will mail one out to me immediately. I will be seeing if replacing it solves my problem. Sounds good on the phone so I will see if they follow up well. Will report later.
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.17 HMR
Jun 6, 2007 18:15:11 GMT -5
Post by whyohe on Jun 6, 2007 18:15:11 GMT -5
good to hear that you might have your problem solved. i know you can replace it yourself but i think they should have to pay for the (your) labor too.
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.17 HMR
Jun 15, 2007 14:11:29 GMT -5
Post by ozark on Jun 15, 2007 14:11:29 GMT -5
A call to Marlin customer service has resulted in them sending me a new extractor. We will soon see if that solves the problem. It is a little hot here for me to get out and do much but I will catch a cool day soo enough.
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.17 HMR
Jun 18, 2007 20:23:37 GMT -5
Post by ozark on Jun 18, 2007 20:23:37 GMT -5
I recieved and installed the free replacement extractor and fired several rounds without a malfunction of failure to extract. I am thinking problem is solved and that Marlin Customer service is very satisfactory. I would complain if service is bad so why not recognize them when it is good?
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.17 HMR
Jun 19, 2007 16:08:14 GMT -5
Post by whyohe on Jun 19, 2007 16:08:14 GMT -5
glad to hear ozark!! did you compare the 2 and see what the difference was? im just curious.
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