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Post by nitro101047 on Dec 31, 2008 20:19:30 GMT -5
my accu-trigger at times locks up and i have to recycle the bolt to loosen it.. any ideas?
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Post by fieldservice on Dec 31, 2008 20:31:01 GMT -5
Could be some debris in the mechanism, try flushing it with lighter fluid. It cleans and lubricates at the same time....
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Post by tar12 on Dec 31, 2008 23:49:52 GMT -5
Are you taking up the slack and pulling straight back?
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Post by chuck41 on Jan 1, 2009 2:30:57 GMT -5
I have the same problem ocassionally. The safety will not move to full safe either. Now I routinely move the safety to full safe and gently press the accutrigger to verify it is free each time after I close the bolt. If not I cycle the bolt and the problem goes away. I think the bolt is not always fully closing, but since this is a muzzleloader and is never going to be a speed demon on loading time anyway I don't worry about it.
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Post by tick on Jan 1, 2009 6:06:45 GMT -5
I have seen Nitro shoot quite a bit and at times I've noticed what I thought was him not cycling the bolt the entire range. Could this have anything to do with it not firing? I mentioned this to him and he says it doesn't but we argue a lot.
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Post by youp50 on Jan 1, 2009 7:34:45 GMT -5
Perhaps your trigger is set too light. If I manage to pull the big trigger with out the little trigger being in, it locks up my rifle. Then one has to re cock the piece by lifting and closing the bolt. I am sorry that I do not know the proper terms to describe the action.
This trigger is not on a ML, but I don't think there is any difference as to the type of firearm Savage puts them on.
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Post by chuck41 on Jan 1, 2009 10:58:00 GMT -5
Perhaps your trigger is set too light. If I manage to pull the big trigger with out the little trigger being in, it locks up my rifle. Then one has to re cock the piece by lifting and closing the bolt. I am sorry that I do not know the proper terms to describe the action. This trigger is not on a ML, but I don't think there is any difference as to the type of firearm Savage puts them on. That is normal operation with the Accutrigger and just means it is doing its job. Anything that results in the sear releasing without the Accutrigger being fully pulled back will result in that lock up and requiring raising and lowering the bolt to recock it.
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Post by CraigF on Jan 1, 2009 11:40:24 GMT -5
I have this problem sometimes with mine. As Chuck said the trigger is releasing without the accu trigger safety blade moving. It locks against safety creating the locked up bolt condition. There are 4 things that can be done about this. 1, clean the sear pretty good for the trigger to have a good connection. 2, send it back to be checked out. 3, turn the weight up on the trigger, the problem will go away, but the trigger weight will be higher. 4, engage the saftey before cocking the bolt.
Whay I do, since I only experience this rarely, is I cleaned the sear well and kept the weight turned all the way down. I use the safety to keep trigger from slipping. After cocking the bolt I undo the safety and it is all good.
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Post by bowbender6 on Jan 1, 2009 18:13:17 GMT -5
Mine does the same - I just recock the bolt - but the tips from Craig my help.
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Post by Harley on Jan 1, 2009 18:18:59 GMT -5
I do the same as CraigF.
Harley
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jan 1, 2009 18:24:56 GMT -5
I avoid the accu-trigger whenever possible. When I can't avoid it initially, I replace it.
Not meaning to be a smart a$$, I just don't care for the problems encountered with this trigger when the time comes to have my gun go bang right now...no questions asked.
It's so safe that even deer could be saved by it.
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Post by Harley on Jan 1, 2009 18:36:52 GMT -5
Wilms, I'm not sure that's a fair summary of the Accu-trigger. In my experience if you pull straight back on the trigger there is never a problem with it firing. Similarly, once you confirm that the safety will slide to full "on" there is never a question whether or not the rifle will fire when you slide it "off". If you adopt CraigF's routine you will have nothing to complain about and the added benefit of the extra safety provided by this trigger.
Harley
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jan 1, 2009 19:06:01 GMT -5
I appreciate your opinion and respect it. I will never use one in the feild. For those of you that like it, I encourage you to keep using it. I feel pretty safe "as is"....have been for many years.
My own safety standards: Gun always pointed safely. Capped only when ready to hunt. Safety on until ready to fire. Etc
There are situations that command extreme safety: Hauling a gun up a tow rope. No need for a cap in that situation.
We can agree to disagree I guess. My gun will fire when the saftey is off.....as designed.
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Post by KerryB on Jan 1, 2009 19:40:08 GMT -5
I have hated the "accu-blade" since the first one i ever saw and i have hated the feel of it since the first one i ever pulled. Every Savage that i buy gets the "accu-blade" removed or the trigger replaced just as quickly as i can get the job done. Every firearm i have ever owned has had a safety that gets the job done for me. With the "accu-blade" removed, my Savage is just as safe as every other firearm that i own. I appreciate the Savage attorneys wanting me to have a second, third, or fourth safety, but these Savage accu-triggers have way too many failures to fire when they should fire. I'm having NONE OF IT! Think i have a strong opinion? You bet i do..........it makes me mad! "I don't need no stinkin' "accu-blade"! ;D ;D
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jan 1, 2009 20:00:19 GMT -5
Thanks KerryB....Now I can sleep. I think we are in the minority on this one. Not sure why folks will put up with the issues and procedures of "proper" trigger pull.
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Post by KerryB on Jan 1, 2009 20:04:50 GMT -5
Sorry for that previous post! I blew an O-ring just thinking about the "accu-blade"! ;D Can you possibly imagine putting a safety like that on a military weapon, where it just might not fire in the heat of battle? Now why should we have to put up with it? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, i better stop thinking about it!
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Post by richard on Jan 1, 2009 20:41:15 GMT -5
Can't say I had any major problems with the Accu-trigger when I had it on the rifle, just did not like the feel of it . (then again, I have not hunted with it either) On the other hand, I do love my Rifle-Basix trigger real well. Would never go back to an Accu-trigger. I could see the frustration of drawing down on a once in a lifetime buck and not being able to make the rifle go "boom!" Richard
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Post by ozark on Jan 1, 2009 21:14:05 GMT -5
Now, Wilmsmeyer and Kerry B. and all the other accu-trigger haters. The litigation triggers that come stock with all other rifles in the price range with Savage have triggers that grind and creep through most of the ten plus pounds of pull. I am not saying the accu-trigger is better than many of the aftermarket triggers. But I will say that it is a big improvement over what stock triggers from equally priced rifles come with. The trigger is a very valuable part of being able to shoot accurately and when the accu-trigger is activated properly by the shooter it can be shot accurately. I am also not trying to be a smart a$$ when I say if the shooter presses the trigger directly to the rear as is a fundamental of shooting well the accu-trigger works perfect. I selected you two simply because I have reason to have great respect for both of you. Ozark
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Post by jims on Jan 1, 2009 21:41:53 GMT -5
I do not hate the accu-trigger but I prefer the old style. Both mine however have been modified with SSS parts. Mine were the old style actions/triggers to start with with the flat receiver in the rear. Just what you prefer I guess.
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Post by KerryB on Jan 1, 2009 23:12:43 GMT -5
I rework or replace the trigger in almost every rifle i use. I have to admit that after i remove the "accu-blade", replace the weight spring with a lighter model, polish the sear, remove overtravel, and finish adjusting weight down to 2.5lbs for hunting use...........these Savage Accu-triggers are a real pleasure to use. I still prefer several other triggers including a hand tuned Remington factory trigger, but the Savage is just fine with a little work!
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Post by 153 on Jan 2, 2009 8:53:07 GMT -5
I have the same issues with my Accu-Trigger.Does not matter if properly cocked or not as I have loaded mine before and removed primer and it would lock up after this.I think the Accu-Trigger is a sales gimmick as I much prefer the trigger on my Tikka and Browning.
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Post by edge on Jan 2, 2009 8:53:58 GMT -5
I happen to like the AccuTrigger a lot.
My old ML-II had a stock trigger which I replaced with a Timney set as light as it would go. I always felt that once I started pulling the trigger that I either had to continue or cycle the bolt. Just did not like the feeling that the trigger was ready to break.
The Accutrigger set at about 1 1/2 pounds for hunting is great and I don't get the feeling that the trigger is ready to break just because I touched it.
I do always ( except once) pull the trigger with a bare trigger finger. I suppose that if I insisted on using thick gloves on the trigger I might feel differently, but then I certainly would not have a bare trigger set at 1 1/2 pounds.
edge.
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