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Post by pointman on Jan 2, 2009 10:59:11 GMT -5
Took this buck in Ohio with my SS ML2 laminate stock, Zeis Conquest 3x9x40.  Thanks to Richard's recent sharing of Duplexing with H4198, I am using 10gr 4759 under 55gr H4198. Barnes 245 gr Spitfire with supplied yellow sabot. 145 yards hit high behind left shoulder and took out the top of both lungs. Deer ran 40 yards before going down. My friend and I have been chasing this deer all season. At least we thought it was this deer, as there was 10 point with this guy with almost same size body, we could have been seeing both deer but thought there was only one big one. At least I think it was a 10 point, as I thought this one was a 10 until I got my hands on him and saw that he was a typical 12. ;D Thanks to all on this site that have helped both me and my buddy in developing accurate loads for our guns. I also have a black composite blue barrel ML2 pre accutrigger model that I shoot with 65gr H4198, behind barnes original with harvester black crush rib.   |
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Post by hillbill on Jan 2, 2009 11:14:24 GMT -5
congrats on a fine looking buck, Bill
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Post by rossman40 on Jan 2, 2009 11:18:49 GMT -5
Thats a buck with character, broken tips and scars are a sure sign. Big congrats!
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Post by edge on Jan 2, 2009 11:22:10 GMT -5
WOW! Nice buck, congratulations  edge. |
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Post by 445supermag on Jan 2, 2009 11:26:21 GMT -5
wow that is an awesome buck. Congrats to ya. Hey didn't you say you live in Ohio or you atleast shot this buck in Ohio. I thought that these kind of bucks are around every tree out that way!!! Just kidding what a beauty man way to go. He is going to look great on the wall.
Brian
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Post by DBinNY on Jan 2, 2009 11:31:13 GMT -5
Sweet! Looks like you gave him a pretty severe nose bleed.
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Post by bigmoose on Jan 2, 2009 11:33:22 GMT -5
Pointman,
I see your post but not the pictures???
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Post by bigmoose on Jan 2, 2009 11:34:49 GMT -5
Ok, I tried again and the pictures came up....great looking deer, you must be proud
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Panhandle
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Post by Panhandle on Jan 2, 2009 12:03:46 GMT -5
Pointman
That's a good one! A perfect way to end the season.
Zen
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Post by CraigF on Jan 2, 2009 12:33:03 GMT -5
That is a nice looking deer!
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Post by E.T. on Jan 2, 2009 14:29:05 GMT -5
Pointman Congrats on that beautiful buck. Boy you and DW sure have made a grand finale for the end of the hunting season. Ed |
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Post by killahog on Jan 2, 2009 14:42:37 GMT -5
Well done pointman. That is a big deer is that what broke that cable on your tailgate?.
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Post by CraigF on Jan 2, 2009 14:49:30 GMT -5
Well done pointman. That is a big deer is that what broke that cable on your tailgate?. Probably not, its a GM, just the weight of the tailgate probably broke it! ;D |
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Post by richard on Jan 2, 2009 15:29:37 GMT -5
Pointman.....nice deer! You probably would have gotten him anyway, even with a single powder load!.....................if it ignited ?  Just kidding! What a way to close the season. Richard |
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Post by DW on Jan 2, 2009 17:51:04 GMT -5
Pointman, that is a DANDY! Congrats.
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Post by youp50 on Jan 2, 2009 18:28:36 GMT -5
I would consider that a monster buck, nice job.
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Post by SW on Jan 2, 2009 19:13:42 GMT -5
:)That would probably be the largest deer for a lot of folks. Congratulations.
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Post by sagittarius on Jan 2, 2009 20:36:55 GMT -5
Nice Buck, congratulations !
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Post by dave d. on Jan 2, 2009 20:39:23 GMT -5
:)boy that is a beaut.congrats on a great buck.
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Post by trophybucks on Jan 3, 2009 0:48:40 GMT -5
That is definately a TROPHY BUCK! Congrats
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Post by fowlplay on Jan 3, 2009 1:44:00 GMT -5
pointman,
Congradulations on a very nice buck.
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Post by nitro101047 on Jan 3, 2009 17:43:05 GMT -5
good deer congrats
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Post by art338wm on Jan 4, 2009 0:24:38 GMT -5
Congratulations Pointman, and I mean that from my heart as one hunter to another. Nothing does my heart better than seeing a big buck taken by a deserving hunter.
Could you please if possable give as detailed as possable you opinion of the 245 grain Spitfires perfirmance on your buck.
What I wish to know is bottom line does what you observed when you gutted your buck clearly with out a doubt tell youn the 245 grain Spitfire performed as intended as far as opening up. In other words what did the organs that the Spitfire passed through looked like if you saw them.
I ask because I have 400+ of them and they average around .5" MOA in my 10ML-II.
Thanks,
Arthur.
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Post by dougedwards on Jan 4, 2009 1:18:46 GMT -5
Outstanding!
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Post by pointman on Jan 4, 2009 13:53:34 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone for your kind words.
Art338wm, I did not split the chest cavity open as I am getting a shoulder mount and have been told not to. The entry wound was actually hard to find, you can see it faintly in the first picture just behind shoulder. The exit wound was the size of a quarter. I examined the lungs after gutting and I hit the top of both lungs, the first lung it hit had a hole poked through it the size of the bullet, the second lung was a mess halfway up, just torn bloody pulp.
In my opinion the bullet worked well. The buck kicked and ran 40-50 yards, jumped a fence and piled up. Some blood and lung material at site of hit, small amount of blood where he ran, but I did hit him high so the chest cavity filled.
Hope this helps
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Post by DannoBoone on Jan 4, 2009 14:13:01 GMT -5
AWESOME buck! Congratulations! art, those bullets are really no good at all. Pointman just got lucky he made a lung shot. I'll take those spitfires off your hands for $10 and pay the shipping. ;D Pointman, I got a doe last year with the 245gr Spitfire. Quartering away shot took out three ribs upon entrance, one rib on exit and broke a shoulder on exit......she STILL made it 50yds. Entrance and exit holes in hide were about what you described, even after going through that much bone. Was very pleased with the performance, but please don't tell art. |
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Post by pointman on Jan 4, 2009 16:50:29 GMT -5
You got it Danno, but you have to split the spitfires with me.  |
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Post by art338wm on Jan 4, 2009 23:49:04 GMT -5
I guess it would serve no purpose then to tell you my 10ML-II shoots the 245grn Spitfires into nice little sub-moa groups when I use 75 grains of H-4198, and as fate would have it these useless on deer bullets have given me my smallest ever group while shooting my 10ML-II of slightly larger than .4" for a 100yrd 3-shot group. D-boone thanks for your more than gracious ;D offer to by my Spitfires, but I think I will be hanging on to them. Especially so since Harvester is going to start selling a sabot that is compatible with the Spitfire and TMZs BT design. I have well over 400 each of the Knight version of the Spitfires and TMZs. As many here at this site, I bought them on close out for $16 or $18 per box of thirty from Cabelas. Pointman thanks for you detailed reply to my question. |
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Post by youp50 on Jan 5, 2009 4:36:50 GMT -5
It has been my experience that you have had typical results with the Barnes X. I have found that it take more than one rib to start the expansion at 2500 fps or less. I wish I would have known my ML would shoot them well last time I saw a sale on them. I keep pretty close tabs on those I have left. No, I do not push them much faster than 2500 with my ML. I do have a 7mm and a 25 cal center fire that uses Barnes x and tsx bullets.
In the past year has anyone seen a decent sale on any bullets. It seems that the high metal prices this past year have made all the supply house act like a 10% reduction is a good deal.
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Post by 1187vx2 on Jan 5, 2009 13:53:04 GMT -5
So what is the general consensus on the 245 gr spitfire MZs? I used the TMZs this year and was impressed with everything except expansion. Are the MZ's known to expand more than the TMZ's or are they about the same?
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Just kidding! What a way to close the season.
