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Post by rangeball on Jan 6, 2009 14:19:59 GMT -5
Buddy's savage should be hear soon. He was wanting to go with the book load for 110 and 250 grain bullet, but can't find 110 around here. I remember reading here where someone said another powder was virtually identical as a direct replacement for 110, but now can't find it. Any idea what that powder is so he can see if it's available? Thanks  |
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Post by SW on Jan 6, 2009 14:51:10 GMT -5
I suspect they said"4759". I think that could be in question now that the newer lots seem to have significantly less velocity than previous lots.
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Post by rangeball on Jan 6, 2009 15:21:01 GMT -5
Thanks, pretty sure that was it. Didn't know about the slower results with new batches though. My b-i-l has some 110 I can get him until he finds it.
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Post by DW on Jan 6, 2009 19:55:56 GMT -5
Midsouth carries N110, but he will have to pay the Hazmat fee.
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Post by ChrisChampion on Jan 6, 2009 20:23:15 GMT -5
Midsouth shows it being on backorder right now...
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Post by DW on Jan 6, 2009 20:43:37 GMT -5
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Post by E.T. on Jan 6, 2009 20:58:57 GMT -5
I suspect they said"4759". I think that could be in question now that the newer lots seem to have significantly less velocity than previous lots. I still have one 1/2lb can to burn and a plastic 1lb bottle to move too before I find out about the velocity difference. My thoughts here would be to find the amount of powder to reproduce the 2300fps I get with my current load and then apply the plus or minus 2gr rule by Savage. Just wonder if the new 4759 will come close to previous recommended load of 4227? If it does then it should get interesting. Ed |
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Post by dans on Jan 7, 2009 8:21:42 GMT -5
Come on boys, with the new batch of 4759 you just have to tip the can a little harder. My friend Mike 3132 found about 100 f/s difference between the old and the new lot. Now the old book load was 43 grains/250 bullet and Mike is working with a gun of mine and is at I believe 46 grains out of the new plastic jug looking for the most accurate load and I wouldn't be suprised if he had to go a grain or two higher. The deer won't know the difference between 2100 f/s or 2300 f/s. They will be equally dead.
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Post by fowlplay on Jan 7, 2009 17:38:36 GMT -5
Come on boys, with the new batch of 4759 you just have to tip the can a little harder. My friend Mike 3132 found about 100 f/s difference between the old and the new lot. Now the old book load was 43 grains/250 bullet and Mike is working with a gun of mine and is at I believe 46 grains out of the new plastic jug looking for the most accurate load and I wouldn't be suprised if he had to go a grain or two higher. The deer won't know the difference between 2100 f/s or 2300 f/s. They will be equally dead. That is exactly what I found a couple of years ago with the plastic jug of 4759. I had to shoot 46.5 grains to hit my 2300 fps mark. The accuracy was better also with this amount. If the old tin can of 4759 was close to N110 performance then I would say the 4759 in the new plastic jug is closer to 5744. The jug of 4759 is still very good reliable powder. You just might have to raise it up a couple of grains in order to get the speed and accuracy that you had with the old tin can. Steve |
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Post by mike3132 on Jan 7, 2009 22:05:34 GMT -5
Actually the new jug 4759 is more between N110 and 5744 and more to the N110 side. Mike
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Post by fowlplay on Jan 8, 2009 9:19:15 GMT -5
Actually the new jug 4759 is more between N110 and 5744 and more to the N110 side. Mike Mike, My data in my gun shows the opposite. This is the average I got with a 250 TMZ bullet. I do not have any data for the 300 pills. 44g N110 - 2350 fps 44g 4759 - 2190 fps (New Jug) 44g 5744 - 2110 fps I'm interested on the data that you have obtained for I have no more 5744 (gave it away) to do any more further comparisons. Steve |
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