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Post by RandyWakeman on Jul 12, 2004 22:26:35 GMT -5
To say one load is all you will ever need to me is ridiculous. Taking that at face value, the majority of deer hunters in the United States must be "ridiculous." I'm not about to explain to my 76 years young father that the 130 gr. .270 Winchester load he has whacked deer with for over the last 50 consecutive years is somehow "ridiculous." To the contrary, it makes little sense to relentlessly change hunting loads for no reason, fixing what isn't broken may be a fun hobby-- but that has little to do with hunting. The old adage "accuracy means consistency" applies. There is nothing consistent about changing powders and projectiles-- as a "bonus," you have a new trajectory / windage / etc. to learn every time you do. Everyone has heard the old " beware the man with one gun" axiom. Well, deer should beware the man with one load.
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Post by edge on Jul 12, 2004 22:41:53 GMT -5
SNIP To the contrary, it makes little sense to relentlessly change hunting loads for no reason, fixing what isn't broken may be a fun hobby-- but that has little to do with hunting. SNIP Randy, If I only read your words, I would agree with what you wrote, BUT I don't see it that way at all! What I see is that this rifle is a 30-30 Brush Gun Through a 300 Win Mag rolled into ONE RIFLE. Just as you couldn't shoot the same cartridge in all of the 30 caliber rifles, you have the same number of combinations of loads with the Savage. I do agree that the majority of hunters that have good luck with a rifle/load combo will NEVER switch, but I don't think that majority of the folks here fall into that category! I think if We were like those hunters, We would still be shooting Our Knights, CVAs, White, etc. edge.
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Post by RandyWakeman on Jul 12, 2004 22:52:44 GMT -5
Randy, If I only read your words, I would agree with what you wrote, BUT I don't see it that way at all! I can live with that. I don't care what anybody shoots. Part of what I find intriguing and fun about muzzleloading (and reloading) is that you get to shoot whatever it is that pleases you, personally, and it is none of my business what that may or may not be. If there was only one "best" load, that is of course what we would all be using.
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Post by RBinAR on Jul 13, 2004 9:46:23 GMT -5
I'm not about to explain to my 76 years young father that the 130 gr. .270 Winchester load he has whacked deer with for over the last 50 consecutive years is somehow "ridiculous." To the contrary, it makes little sense to relentlessly change hunting loads. Everyone has heard the old " beware the man with one gun" axiom. Well, deer should beware the man with one load. I hope for his sake that you have not ruled out the possibility of you father ever going elk, moose or other really big game hunting if he can and might want. If he does he'd probably at least move up to the 150 grain slug. If you mean you were only talking about deer then you were the only poster doing so. No one and I mean no one even came close to mentioning changing over and over again. So where does relentlessly come in here? Did you have a lot of coffee today? Now who do you know that posts on this board that would find a favorite load then forget it totally because he trys another? Yeah I have a single fovorite load for deer, don't shoot nothing else, but it could change at least in theory.
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Post by mike3132 on Jul 13, 2004 10:11:22 GMT -5
Randy, I guess you just had to be there to understand. Any business that takes an attitude with me doesn't get my money again, very simple. mike
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Post by mike3132 on Jul 13, 2004 10:32:33 GMT -5
What if someone talks you into boycotting your favorite powder for your favorite load? Or, your favorite bullet isn't being made anymore. Maybe its time to go on an elk, moose, buffalo or grizzly hunt or even maybe a cape buffalo hunt, will your favorite deer load be up to it?Would you want to stand face to face with a dangerous game animal with a deer load? There are many reasons to have more than one load in the savage 10 ml. most people on here do. mike
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Post by RandyWakeman on Jul 13, 2004 10:37:33 GMT -5
If you mean you were only talking about deer then you were the only poster doing so. Hardly-- the person who started this thread was.
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Post by grouse on Jul 13, 2004 12:11:22 GMT -5
Hardly-- the person who started this thread was. That is true. My loads i talk about are only revolved around Deer hunting. But, i am happy to say i would use the 260grn DC on anything i would ever go hunting for. Elk, Moose, Caribou, etc. The only exception would be on Grizzly Bear. I would either choose the 340grn DC, or the 300grn Dc. I will never sacrifice accuracy for anything. So far i have not shot a Bullet more accurate then DeadCenters. That stands true with all three of my Muzzleloaders.
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Post by RBinAR on Jul 13, 2004 17:48:10 GMT -5
8-)Well forgive me, but with this post running to 600+ views and 37 replies I have not gone to the beginning for a while.
However I'd state and most would confirm that we have talked about many different loads in the most recent posts.
Grouse I like your theories in that you know what you want to do. I differ in my feelings of exact process but having a plan and trying ones best to conform to it is better than shooting and hoping.
It makes my heart glad to know that you would adapt to Grizzly hunting. Like you I am not fond of being eaten.
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Post by grouse on Jul 13, 2004 23:14:18 GMT -5
It makes my heart glad to know that you would adapt to Grizzly hunting. Like you I am not fond of being eaten.
RB, ;D Jacketed bullet wouldn't be out of the question either.
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