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Post by dave d. on Aug 18, 2008 15:46:30 GMT -5
guy's anyone who is interested in a double d .50 .45 or .40 savage drop-in barrel that will work with your standard savage breechplug call penny at pac-nor 541-469-7330.the standard double d barrel consist's of: -25"ss barrel -standard ml contour -11 degree muzzle crown -.45 22 twist or .40 16 twist -chambered for a savage breechplug this will cost right in the neighborhood of $360 shipped.
now there are other options available so you can customize the barrel to your needs.let's start with available twist's for the .45: 3 groove 13" 14" 6 groove 8" 22" 8 groove 14" 15" 18" 20" 22"
-and for the .40 we have: 6 groove 16" 8 groove 13" there will be no charge for different twist's.
-and for the .50(.505) we have: 8 groove 16" 20"
next we have different barrel lengths.there is no extra charge for barrels up to 28"s.
next we have barrel fluting which is a $125 option.
next we have finish, bead blasted or polished no charge. i hope i didn't forget anything.
dave d.
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Post by jhm on Aug 18, 2008 16:11:53 GMT -5
That seems a little to tight. If they will offer a .504 or .505 I will jump on the band wagon.
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Post by dave d. on Aug 18, 2008 16:26:30 GMT -5
:)jhm what size is your savage .50?i would think it is pretty much perfect.remmember this is land to land .500 groove to groove would be around .510.edge has a 505 which i beleve is .495 .498 land to land that shot sabots just fine.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Aug 18, 2008 17:17:48 GMT -5
Dave d.
This is nice. About Edge's sabots though...aren't those home brews? Edge?
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Post by CraigF on Aug 18, 2008 17:35:28 GMT -5
Thanks Dave! This is very tempting, I wonder how a 26" or 28" barrel would work? We could use some slower powders.
Dave, which twist rate do you think would be best for 300 grainers?
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Post by jhm on Aug 18, 2008 17:47:54 GMT -5
I am not sure what size my ss Savage is. I do know that without the rcr sabot I would be sol. My bore is too big for my liking. Now my Whites are .504 and that works out great for sabots or conicals.
If the .500 barrel will mate to a .458 bullet in the orange mmp sabot I am in.
Personally I would go with the 1/20 twist. But, barrel length could make for some entertaining discussion.
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Post by CraigF on Aug 18, 2008 18:03:35 GMT -5
I am thinking that a longer barrel would mean one can use slower powder than we can use now and even faster speeds without blowing sabots. Mabye a 30" barrel?
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Post by dave d. on Aug 18, 2008 19:07:10 GMT -5
:)craig i would go 20 twist should be very forgiving.
:)wilms edge tested it with regular sabots to see if that tight bore would work with them and from what i remmember they shot great.
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Post by richard on Aug 18, 2008 20:28:36 GMT -5
Dave d According to Pac-Nor's web-site, they make the following .50 cal barrels:
50 cal (.500") 8 groove 12" 18" 25" 36"
505 cal (.505") 8 groove 16" 20"
50 (.510") 6 groove 18" 20" 8 groove 9" 14" After doing Cerrosafe moulds on my two Savage SS barrels ( I got a spare from Jims) they both measure .5065" on the lands and .5115" on the grove. Would we not have the option to get the .505" rather than the .500" which would be quite tight. Richard
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Post by CraigF on Aug 18, 2008 20:48:21 GMT -5
:)craig i would go 20 twist should be very forgiving. What would the affect of the 16 and 18 twist do?
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Post by richard on Aug 18, 2008 21:08:54 GMT -5
Spin it faster! Seriously, Craig, you don't want spin it too fast as you might strip the sabot. Based on how decent the Savage 1 -24 stabalizes 250 and 300 gr. bullets, I would probably not want to go faster than 1 - 20 twist. The 1 - 20 would favor the heavier bullets a little more. Richard
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Post by dave d. on Aug 19, 2008 4:45:16 GMT -5
Dave d According to Pac-Nor's web-site, they make the following .50 cal barrels: 50 cal (.500") 8 groove 12" 18" 25" 36" 505 cal (.505") 8 groove 16" 20" 50 (.510") 6 groove 18" 20" 8 groove 9" 14" After doing Cerrosafe moulds on my two Savage SS barrels ( I got a spare from Jims) they both measure .5065" on the lands and .5115" on the grove. Would we not have the option to get the .505" rather than the .500" which would be quite tight. Richard :)richard you can go with any of these barrels but i think the one i picked will be perfect for fit.here's the land to land on the barrels you mentioned in your order:.490,.495,.500.the choice is yours.
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Post by richard on Aug 19, 2008 19:31:26 GMT -5
Dave d..........I am confused? If the land to land on my barrel is .5065 (which it is) and I am getting a good fit with my present bullet/sabots, why would I want to go to a .500 land to land barrel? We are talking .0065" smaller. The choice of sabots might not be that good? I'm just thinking out loud....I need a little help? Would you think that those tighter lands would engrave the sabot better? Is the tightness we feel when seating a sabot actually the sabot bottoming out in the groves? My initial thought that tightness was caused by the lands, but maybe its the groves? Thanks in advance Dave Richard
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Post by dave d. on Aug 20, 2008 6:39:56 GMT -5
:)richard remember these barrels are not going to have the chatter marks in them like the savage barrel so it will probably feel alittle easier when loading then your existing barrel.edges 505 barrel probably has a land to land dimension of .495 and he shot 250sst's with regular sabot's(not his machined sabots)in his barrel and they shot great.i'm not going to tell anyone to get one of these barrels because i have not shot one myself but my guess is it would be a winner.
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Post by edge on Aug 20, 2008 9:10:21 GMT -5
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Post by richard on Aug 20, 2008 18:35:46 GMT -5
Dave d and Edge... Thanks to both of you for your thoughts. I was really seriously considering going for the Pac-Nor however, my shooting session this past Tuesday went very well and has me thinking that I might want to do more playing before laying down $385 smakers when I am not competing with it! I was tickled pink with that 200 SST and how well it shot for the first time at 2200 fps! I figure that 10/60 N-110/N-120 duplex should get its velocity up in the 2800 fps range. If its accuracy is as good and it shoots to 200, that would be great! Richard
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Post by dans on Aug 22, 2008 7:08:09 GMT -5
So a .510 barrel with .500 land to land should be able to shoot any of the .500 bullets designed for the .500 S&W sabotless with out having to size the bullets.
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Post by dave d. on Aug 22, 2008 18:14:31 GMT -5
:)dan don't know but it should be close.alittle sizing or filing will get the job done.
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