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Post by mshm99 on Dec 22, 2008 14:16:27 GMT -5
Not wanting to hi-jack wilmsmeyer's thread, the subject of heavy recoil comes up. I feel like big moose that recoil has never really been much of a issue with me. I believe that stock geometry,weight of gun,porting, and a good recoil pad can take most of the sting out of the worst of them.
That said 20 years ago,a friend bought a Savage, bolt action,rifled barreled,12 gauge slug gun,that no doubt,was the most punishing weapon I ever placed against my shoulder ,before or since. That thing made your eyes water,nose run,vision blur and kicked like a mule.My buddy wanted to sight in the scope.I wondered why he passed it to me after three shots. Well, two shots was enough for me. We shot the same ammo we always used in other guns,at the time BRI saboted stuff.No doubt it was the weapon. My buddy sold it with in a week and I don't think it stayed in any gun cabinet too long.
What's the worst recoiling weapon you've shot?
mshm
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Post by chuck41 on Dec 22, 2008 14:22:22 GMT -5
Without a doubt, a Ruger #3 in 45-70. Weighed 5 1/2# and loaded with a maximum charge for a 45-70 (modern gun loads) the steel buttplate would leave it's brand on your shoulder.
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Post by ozark on Dec 22, 2008 17:33:21 GMT -5
A Remington 870 12 Ga. loaded with 3 1/2 Inch turkey loads. I am sure there are harder kicking weapons but I sure am not interested in them. I think this was called a super mag or something. It was super punishing. Ozark
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Post by billc on Dec 22, 2008 20:21:43 GMT -5
Remington 700 8mm Rem Mag. Holy snot that gun kicked!!
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Post by DannoBoone on Dec 22, 2008 21:05:18 GMT -5
Speaking of stock geometry, it sucked on Savage 110 models in the early-mid 90's. My brother got one in 7mm Rem Mag........one shot and he had to go to a chiropractor, even though he had shot the same rounds out of a 700 Rem.
I had one of the same models in .22-250 that kicked like a light .410 with 3 incher's, a good twice as much as a Rem 788 in the same caliber.
They drastically changed something, or else the 10MLII's would be a rifle suitable only to King Kong.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Dec 23, 2008 6:24:31 GMT -5
You will laugh at me but the worst kicking gun ever was my Savage when I first got it. The factory buttplate was the reason. I started out with loads that my friends were using in theirs and I could not shoot more then 3-4 times before I HAD to stop.
I switched the buttplate out for a recoil pad that was on an old Rem 1100. Fit wasn't perfect but it worked. Still not good enough. I then bought a slip on pad and put it over the other pad and used electricians tape to keep it on and make it "slippery" enough to not want to catch on my clothing.
The length it added to the gun helped my alignment...may not help yours and I can shoot this gun with a tee-shirt as many times as I want. The gun is now butt-ugly but I can cuddle with it and it loves me. We are like an old happily married couple and things like looks have been replaced with simple blind love.
OH...My mossburg 9200 autoloader still kicks the snot out of me but only gets shot enough to sight in and be ready for service. Drives my thumb into my nose every time I forget to shift it over to the side while on the bench. Enough to make me bleed and cuss.
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Post by youp50 on Dec 23, 2008 7:58:49 GMT -5
It was not the hardest kicking thing I ever shot, but I was truly impressed by it. I attended a shooting show at Ahlman's in Morristown Minnesota, go there if you can. Benelli had a sporting clay sight and I chose one of their light 20 gages. Target loads. The double birds went out and I missed both. The gun fit me like a younger brothers shoes and kicked worse than any Holstein cow that sent me across the barn.
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Post by fitzzie on Dec 24, 2008 1:38:49 GMT -5
Well...got to go with Ozark on this one...1.5 oz 12 gage mag turkey loads in a Rem 870...kinda brutal. The 60g N120 in the Savage 10ML is mild by comparison, fun to shoot, even, that one...
Another thing...I always unhitch the strap of my bib overalls on my shooting shoulder if it is a heavy recoiler...gettin' that strap buckle under the buttplate makes for an even "smarter" feelin' impulse...owie!
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Post by DW on Dec 24, 2008 8:29:15 GMT -5
This is an easy one for me. First year Mossberg came out with the 835 I had to have one, synthetic stock and all. When I put a scope on it, shooting off sandbags, the dang thing bloodied my nose and gave me one awful headache with Fed Prem. 3 1/2's. A gobbler came in and at roughly five feet he went into strut on my 9 oclock, I had to swing the gun over a log and pivot up to one knee off my rear, the bird heard me scraping my sleeve across the bark and came out of strut, didn't have time to shoulder the gun, basically point and shoot. The butt pad was on my bicep when I pulled the trigger, OUCH! My forearm and bicep was bruised for close to three weeks after that stunt, but I did get the wily old tom, think I got one BB in his head since it should have been gone at that distance.
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Post by Johnc on Dec 24, 2008 9:51:19 GMT -5
I'll agree on the Mossberg 835 with turkey loads. I have one..I hate it and it hates me . It is by far the meanest SOB I ever pulled the trigger on. I think the stock is partly to blame because it blackens my cheek and tries to crush my cheek bone.
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Post by youp50 on Dec 24, 2008 21:34:35 GMT -5
I have trouble imagining the recoil from a 3 1/2 inch 12 gage pump, good stock or not. I own a Winchester X-2 semi auto and I have a box of 24 12 gage 3 1/2 goose loads. I had two more in the magazine when I pulled the trigger the first and last time. I had no trouble letting the rest of the flock fly on. IMO, no bird flies through the air needs that kind of fire power to kill. Or struts for that matter.
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Post by bubba on Dec 27, 2008 8:51:36 GMT -5
I shot my friends 45-70 (custom mauser bolt action) with 500gr solids @ 2000+fps OWIE batman, that didnt feel good. Then I shot the same out of his crescent butt 1895 browning single shot - I almost cried (there were people watching) - I was blk & blu for a long time. He had chumed us in with some light lead loads first that were BP equivalent loads, rather mild............. hehehe I will get even some day, thinking about P'ing in his wifes steam iron -bubba
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Post by RAF on Dec 27, 2008 10:19:34 GMT -5
I thought my Tikka T3 in 300 WSM was bad until I fired a friends 10 guage with 3 1/2(I believe) magnums. OUCH
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Post by richard on Dec 28, 2008 20:30:30 GMT -5
A friend of mine was at the range sighting in his Remington Safari gun in .470 Lott for an upcoming African buffalo hunt. He asked me if I would like to shoot it? What the heck .........boy that that sompregnant dog kick Richard
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Post by noregrets on Jan 6, 2009 17:10:48 GMT -5
not to nitpick but the Lot is a .458 - .470 Nitro Express or maybe a capstick.
A 10 gauge with slugs has some recoil to it but I would like to shoot a .460 Weatherby as I was told they were fairly punishing to shoot.
The worst recoil I have felt was a lightweight (read scandium) .44 magnum S and W. I would not want to target shoot one on a regular basis.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jan 6, 2009 18:16:07 GMT -5
not to nitpick but the Lot is a .458 - .470 Nitro Express or maybe a capstick. A 10 gauge with slugs has some recoil to it but I would like to shoot a .460 Weatherby as I was told they were fairly punishing to shoot. The worst recoil I have felt was a lightweight (read scandium) .44 magnum S and W. I would not want to target shoot one on a regular basis. The thrill of recoil and power!
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Post by dans on Jan 7, 2009 10:25:26 GMT -5
Went over to visit Kent LaMont one time and he asked me if I wanted to shoot his turtle gun. I said OK and he got out this big rifle that was very heavy. I put on the ear protection and the shooting jacket and he told me to sit down. There was a big mound of dirt about 50 yards away with what looking like a big piece of metal sitting in front of it. He told me to hold on to the gun or it would roll me over on my back. Then he produced a 50 cal MG round with a big lead looking bullet sticking out of it. He said to hold low as the neighbors were about half a mile away in the general direction of the target. 750 grain bullet at 2700 f/s hit the 3 inch thick metal about 6 inches off the ground. perfect hit. Yeah I was dumb enough to shoot it a second time. The bottom dot on the Leupy scope was set at 1 mile. Taught me not to like recoil.
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Post by ChrisChampion on Jan 8, 2009 12:25:14 GMT -5
My Ithaca Deerslayer with 3" Brenneke Gold slugs. It was the first slugs I tried in the gun when I bought it back in '92. Any 3" slug is not pleasant to shoot.
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Post by RAF on Jan 8, 2009 16:19:33 GMT -5
Now I haven't fired it but there is a fellow that comes the range regularly and one of his rifles is a 416 Rigby. He usually shoots it with reduced loads but the last time he was getting ready for a trip to Africa and using full loads and it looked like he was getting jolted pretty good.
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Post by 8ptbuk on Jan 10, 2009 23:36:37 GMT -5
My worst kick'n gun was also a 3.5 mag moss. 12 gauge turkey. A close second is my 10 ga. BPS. These will make snot run out of your nose !!! HA !!! HA !!!
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Post by wildman on Jan 11, 2009 12:36:16 GMT -5
same as dw & johnc the mossyb 835 it's a sob to handle it found a new home quickly.
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Post by Roger_Dailey on Jan 12, 2009 11:02:44 GMT -5
Federal 2.25 oz (980+ grains) of shot at 1150 fps. About the same calculated recoil as something pushing a500 grain slug over 2000 fps
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