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Post by jkruger on Jan 10, 2009 19:04:59 GMT -5
RW has ventliners for sale at his web site .
Are these worth the $ for three? Do they stand up to the claim that they last 400% longer ?
Or am I better off just buying the stock ones from Savage?
jk
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Post by Buckrub on Jan 10, 2009 19:49:33 GMT -5
Better make him insure the shipment, or get him to accept payment AFTER they arrive!! My two cents.
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Post by richard on Jan 10, 2009 19:54:25 GMT -5
They are probably better than Savages but are they worth the $$$  . Depends on how much you shoot and how hot your loads. If you have access to a little drill press, you can by thos screws for $13/100 and cobalt drills for around $2-3 ea. and make your own. $0.25 ea. and get 50 shots and throw in the trash. Richard |
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Post by Harley on Jan 10, 2009 20:23:36 GMT -5
I do as Richard says, make my own; but, RW's vents are far superior to Savage in at least one way: the Savage hex recess is crummy, doesn't really grip a hex wrench and results in stuck vent liners.
Harley
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Post by jkruger on Jan 10, 2009 21:48:03 GMT -5
where does one find screws like the ventliners, and cobalt drills?
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Post by DW on Jan 10, 2009 22:19:03 GMT -5
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Post by jkruger on Jan 10, 2009 22:25:46 GMT -5
thanks dw. does that seem like an excessive price for one ventliner, or am I just a cheepskate?
maybe more than one in a package???
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Post by jkruger on Jan 10, 2009 22:26:45 GMT -5
how much does Savage charge?
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Post by DW on Jan 10, 2009 22:31:28 GMT -5
thanks dw. does that seem like an excessive price for one ventliner, or am I just a cheepskate? maybe more than one in a package??? Compared to what the other guy charges that seems like a bargain to me. Yes that is for one vent. I have gotten close to 200 shots out of one of Cecil's vents but it all depends on the pressure of the loads and powder used. Not sure what Savage charges, they do not seem to last long and I moved on to RW and PR vents after I used up my second Savage vent. |
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Post by DW on Jan 10, 2009 23:03:13 GMT -5
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Post by fowlplay on Jan 11, 2009 1:30:23 GMT -5
how much does Savage charge? Last year I bought them from Savage for three dollars a piece. |
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Post by jkruger on Jan 11, 2009 6:43:53 GMT -5
I like the make your own idea,great hobby and something todo on a winter day when its snowing like heck outside. it beats moving snow around with the tractor.(cold seat)
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Post by Buckrub on Jan 11, 2009 9:21:14 GMT -5
Why does the PRBullet site say "available in .030 and .033 hole" Which do I need? What is difference? |
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Post by DW on Jan 11, 2009 10:19:05 GMT -5
Most probably have the .030 hole, the .033 is larger. Maybe it is just me but I think my gun shoots better at .033.
The .033 makes better sense for me if I am right, since I will get more shots with the hole at .033. With the .030, by the time the hole wears to .033, vent liner wear is increasing and I get fewer shots in the sweet spot, between .033-.035.
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Post by youp50 on Jan 11, 2009 12:08:12 GMT -5
For those of you who are drilling your own vents, Have you attempted annealing , drilling and heat treating? Do you get good vent life?
For anyone drilling any steel, nothing ruins a bit faster than letting it turn with out removing steel. I have always been of the opinion that the steel you are removing cools the bit better than any coolant, except the coolant delivered through special bits with the coolant passages built into the bit. I do more dry drilling on construction jobs than others, I get longer drill bit life than most. I don't have a big bunch of coolant and chips sliding down the front of a paper machine or power house beam.
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Post by bowbender6 on Jan 11, 2009 12:52:38 GMT -5
I just cleaned my gun after the season. Clint gave me 2 RW .031 ventliners at the Indiana shoot. I have 228 shoots on it and it is now .032. Most of the shooting has been with 65 of R7 and 60 of N120. This seems like extremely long life compared to others I hear about.
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Post by youp50 on Jan 12, 2009 16:02:48 GMT -5
I am going to try these bits. Tungsten Carbide capable of drilling material into the 90's on the Rockwell 'C' scale, cobalt bits are at their or above their practical application on a liner screw with a Rockwell 'C' scale hardness of 40. 1/8 inch shank should mean no pin or dremel chuck necessary for most chucks. 5 bits are $ 11.10 to my door. Only available in 5 packs. I chose the #68 drill size, .0310 +0 -.0003". Place is called drillbit city. Here is the address. drillcity.stores.yahoo.net/10newwirsizp.htmlOr else just call John at 847-419-1267 |
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Post by Harley on Jan 12, 2009 18:48:49 GMT -5
You talked me into it, Youp50; just placed an order online.
Harley
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Post by youp50 on Jan 12, 2009 20:12:39 GMT -5
Here is another source for your frugal considerations.
100 ea 10-32x1/2 flat head socket cap screws ASTM F835 ANSI B18.3 Rockwell 'C' hardness 39-44
$7.65 out the door at my local Fastenal Store. The box says buy it on line at Fastenal.com. If shipping and handling seem too high PM me and I will look into shipping it for you. The store is not out of my way nor the UPS Store for shipping.
A new bit of information for me as stated on the invoice "If you re-package or resell this product you are required to maintain integrity of Country of Origin to the consumer of this product" Learn something new every day.
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Post by richard on Jan 12, 2009 20:53:44 GMT -5
Tried that link for Drillbit city and it did not work! Just googled it and got this one....http://drillbitcity.com/
Richard
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Post by youp50 on Jan 12, 2009 22:01:24 GMT -5
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. Depends on how much you shoot and how hot your loads. If you have access to a little drill press, you can by thos screws for $13/100 and cobalt drills for around $2-3 ea. and make your own. $0.25 ea. and get 50 shots and throw in the trash.
