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Post by ozark on Mar 10, 2007 20:52:40 GMT -5
I bought a .17 Cal. Marlin with rifle basix trigger and fired it several times yesterday. It is a Model 917V. I assume the V must stand for Varmint but don't know. Anyway, I shot both the 17 and 20 grain bullets. winchester supreme and CCI. It appeared to shoot nice but I haven't actually sighted in or done any serious shooting. I was a bit surprised at the lack of any recoil. Tomorrow I will sight it in to be dead on at 100 yds. and see where it hits at 50 yds. Would appreciate suggestions on ammunition since I am satisfied that the POI of 17 and 20 grain bullets will impact differently. I did the coke can full of water fun shot. That is pretty impressive. My main purpose is plinking, crows, pest squirrel and groundhogs (woodchucks) but would take a coyote or bobcat if it came along. I can tell already that it is a fun rifle to shoot. I lost the c clip that holds the trigger pin due to age and fumble fingers. Anyone know where I can get a replacement without a lot of trouble? Thanks in advance.
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Post by minst7877 on Mar 10, 2007 23:10:07 GMT -5
Take the pin that it goes on down to the local auto parts store and they should be able to help you out. May have to cold blue it after you get it if it is visible. My Marlin 17VS does not like the CCI ammo (Hollow points) but the Remington and Hornady (Ballistic Tip) shoot to the same POI. Mine has taken chucks out to 135 yards with the 17 grain bullets. Sighted dead on at 100 put the crosshairs on the chucks head and it was DRT.
DC
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Mar 11, 2007 0:24:58 GMT -5
I also shot my 17 break open NEF today. Tried the CCI 20 gr FMJ. Could hold about a 1 1/2 inch group at 100. I lined 2 gallon sized milk jugs filled with water. I was trying to trap the FMJ to see if it would expand at all. It went through them both.
I'm trying to find a bullet with a little more penetration for woodchucks. Sometimes they stop quick with a center chest shot and sometimes they suck it up and make it a ways before giving up.
Also, a load that won't tear squirrels in half with upper body shots. More testing to do.
Ozark, you'll love this round.
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Post by ozark on Mar 11, 2007 0:28:46 GMT -5
Thanks, I will try the local auto shop. Also thanks for sharing your experience with the ammunition. I think I will stick with 17 grain bullets unless time or others convince me otherwise. My thinking at this point is why go for the tiny caliber and then try to increase bullet weight to slow it down. Looking for other posts to learn from.
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Post by ozark on Mar 11, 2007 16:49:29 GMT -5
Was at our range again today with the .17 Cal.. The wind was actually to stiff to get a real good zero. I zeroed in dead on at 100 yards. It is a bit low at both fifty and twenty five yards. The vertical dispersion was practically nothing but horizonal was up to three inches total at 100 yards. I think since the wind was gusting this accounted for that. Mostly I shot the 17 grain and plan on that being my standard ammo. I did shoot a few FMJ 20 CCI. I think penetration is very good with that because at fifty yards it penetrated a treated landscape timber that is four inches thick. .17 V Max didn't penetrate this. The FMJ 20 grain impacted a little lower than the V Max at 100 yards. Overall it is a fun rifle to play with and I am sure that some unwanted crows etc. will dislike it to the fullest extent.
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Post by minst7877 on Mar 11, 2007 18:00:27 GMT -5
Wind will be a major factor when shooting this caliber gun, those super light bullets will deflect in the wind quite a bit. Get your zero set on a nice calm day or it could drive you nuts. I have never tried the 20 gr. bullets in mine as it does what I want with the 17gr bullet. When I first got mine I shot it over my crono. I was getting between 100 and 150 more fps than was advertised on the ammo box. That caliber is quick and a lot of fun to shoot.
DC
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Post by whyohe on Mar 12, 2007 14:54:52 GMT -5
my gun does not like the cci either. it loves the hornady ammo. the remington and federal shoot just fine also. i stick with the hornady though. i use 20 grners for ground hogs and havent had a problem with it. i actually prefer it for hogs. but that was the hornady stuff so dont know if there is a differance with it and the other manufacturers stuff.
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Post by nemohunter on Dec 19, 2007 7:38:16 GMT -5
all the loadings are different. they just use the same bullet. the cci gameshock and the hornady xtp are the same bullet. i do not recommend using the FMJ for anything hunting it just does not kill anything. i've had head shot squirrels get away from this load. i too prefer the the 20 gr bullet for hunting. it has plenty of penetration and expation without the gore of the v-max. it just blows stuff up period. head shot squirrels = no head and some times no shoulders. also the farther away you get with the shooting the better your penetration becomes. i did a bit of an experiment on a doe head this season and a 20 gamepiont whistled right through both sides at 50 yds where the v-max did not. these were from processed deer NOT live animals. sorry no pics.
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Post by tomcat on Dec 20, 2007 13:31:08 GMT -5
mine likes the 17gr hornadys, the hollow points were just not as accurate after sighting in w/ the v-max. a world of impact but not penetration, I turned a raccoons head into what felt like a fur covered blob of jello with rocks in it, no exit. you're right Ben, the crows will hate it, especially when they fly out of the yard or garden and think they're safely out of range. it's really cool when you shoot....think you've missed....and then one just falls out or takes a step and drops.
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