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Post by RAF on Feb 11, 2006 17:55:10 GMT -5
The day was spent in my basement reloading a bunch of bullets. As I was finishing I went to my gun room and picked up my 22-250. I tried to cycle the bolt and it was very stiff. Trigger didn't want to work either. A close look reveal RUST . checked several others and found another with same problem. My gun room is built on an out side wall of the house and is insulated but this past summer was very wet. Lots of rain and humidity. The two guns affected haven't be out for a couple of years. The rest seem to be OK. I thought about breaking them down and doing a thorough cleaning and oiling but not sure if that will be enough. It might be best to take them to my gunsmith and him do it. I'm just sick. Think I'll build a gun locker.
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Post by bubba on Feb 11, 2006 18:37:46 GMT -5
Raf
A golden rod de-humidifier thingy might do the trick........
reasonable price - about $30 us, like a little heating (curling iron) and burns off the humidity in the enclosing area.
something to consider.
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Post by Blue-Dot-37.5 on Feb 11, 2006 21:44:55 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that! If you have the time, a white scotchbrite pad (like one for washing dishes) and some oil might take care of the rust, but it'll take some disassembly time.......
Either what Bubba said or throw a dehumidifier down there. My parents keep one running in their basement all year long.
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Post by jjw on Feb 11, 2006 22:36:25 GMT -5
Blue D was thinking along my lines. I would try with a scotchbrite pad, with some good oil to clean before taking to a gunsmith. I have an old Enfield that I did that to and it now looks and works very well. It is unfortunate that your babies were rusted, but try to recover them yourself first with a thorough cleaning, then look to a gunsmith if that does not work. Good luck.
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billc
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Post by billc on Feb 12, 2006 10:43:19 GMT -5
I keep a dehumidifier running in my basement all year long too. I don't keep guns in the basement, but the reloading equipment and other tools are there -- no rust in 8 years.
With a cautionary note that I don't know where and how much rust you have.
In addition to scotch-brites (green or white) I have used jewelers rouge on an old tee-shirt for hand work or on a buffing wheel on the grinder. I would be reluctant to use a wire wheel on the grinder unless it's real bad and I wouldn't use any machine on blued parts unless it needs to be re-blued. 4 "ought" steel wool is good for some hand use applications too.
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Post by Blue-Dot-37.5 on Feb 12, 2006 15:31:45 GMT -5
Brownells sells a brass wool. I was told by an old 'smith that if I use regular steel wool on a gun, the little particles that come off of the steel wool will rust, he told me about the brass wool.......
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Post by RAF on Feb 12, 2006 16:45:47 GMT -5
I spent the better part of the day working on the 2 rifles. The first was my 22-250. It wasn't as bad as I thought. Got cleaned up. Used some solvent and a dremel tool with a wire wheel on some of the tougher rust. Put on lots of oil and I seems to be working. Fortunetely there wasn't any rust on or in the barrel. The 2nd rifle was my sons 30-06. It was a little worse. Got the rust off but the rifle didn't want to function. Finally had to take the trigger assembly apart and clean and lube it. Seem to be OK now. Again no rust in the barrel. A friend suggested a bag of Silica Sand in the room to absorb the humidity. Sounds like that might be a good idea. IMO the room is too small for a dehumidifier. This is the first time in 10 years that this has happened, but last summer and fall were very wet around here.
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Post by MountainMan on Feb 13, 2006 13:44:17 GMT -5
That is a painful experience! Glad you got them cleaned up well, and that the bluing was not ruined.
Hey, at least now you tell the wife, "Sorry, hon, if I don't go shooting all weekend, the guns might get rusted up again!"
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Post by RAF on Feb 13, 2006 16:13:40 GMT -5
Don't have to make up excuses like that. My wife is very understanding and supportive. Of course I never question her when she has to go out and her nail, hair, feet or what ever done . And yes I'm glad that everything worked out with the rifles and no permanent damage was done.
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Post by MountainMan on Feb 13, 2006 16:22:53 GMT -5
You're a very lucky man, then! If I spend three hours at the range, I get the "You're gonna have to make it up to me" treatment for the next two weeks. And when deer season rolls around, watch out!!! You'd think I was seeing other women from the way she acts about my time in the woods!
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Post by jjw on Feb 14, 2006 0:39:26 GMT -5
No doubt Mountain Man! This is my time of the year to build some cred with the wife by giving her all the freedom she wants to do things, so I have time banked come fall!
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Post by whyohe on Feb 14, 2006 15:42:09 GMT -5
raf i had the same thing happen once. dont knoe if i grabbed the gun to get another out or what, but i used FLITZ metal pollish and the buffing wheel on my dremal tool and it worked great. then used the FLITZ POLIER all natural carnuba over entier gun and the sprayed it down with gun oil and no more problem.( even though bare metal)
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Post by madcaster on Dec 14, 2006 0:04:48 GMT -5
I'm with BillC on the dehumidifier,I have one too.
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Post by joe21a on Dec 19, 2006 10:09:13 GMT -5
If your cellar wall gets damp I am not sure if any thing will keep the gun cabinet dry. I would move them up stairs were it is less wet. Also try using gun grease on them it will last much longer than most oils. Mine are stored on a 2dn. floor of my house and if I do not oil them 3 times a year I find the start of rust on worn areas.
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Post by RAF on Dec 20, 2006 13:32:39 GMT -5
I'm afraid the basement is the only place to keep my guns. Because of firearms legislation here gun have to be in a locked room. Don't have one of those upstairs. The only options is a locking gun cabinet, and no room for that up stairs either.
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joe21a
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Post by joe21a on Dec 20, 2006 16:46:51 GMT -5
try the gun grease on then then. It is not a mess as it sounds and it realy protects them well. If they are in any type of a gun cabinet the heaters work .( Golden rod)
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bugzy
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Post by bugzy on Jan 28, 2007 10:04:10 GMT -5
Ive always heard spray type oils like wd40 can cause problems because of the propellent they use and sometimes gun will get rust had a nephew that had a 700 said he sprayed it dowd stuck it under his bed in good dry conditions and it got a ton of rust on it but it was all external I use steel wool dipped in kerosen to get it off it was one of the newer matte guns they dont have verry good blue anyway but it cleaned up pretty well
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Post by RAF on Jan 28, 2007 10:34:05 GMT -5
Last week was doing some work in my reloading area and decided to try my new laser bore sight and low and behold I found that my 22-250 trigger was seized up again. Nothing I did made it better . Took it to my gun smith who diaganosed it as a very dirty trigger. He took it apart and cleaned it. His only advice was that what ever I used on it, stop and don't do it again. What ever I put in there, and I don't remember what , turned to tar. It's back to normal now .
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