NAP Spitfire Broad Heads and fall away rests

[thelefthand]

Hey guys, just looking on some feedback on the Spitfire broad heads by NAP. I've shot thunderheads for years, but I'm considering trying the spitfires this year. Seems lke a good concept and a good design. Anyone out there have any good or bad feedback? I've always woried about the blades being a little weaker and breaking when they hit a rib or something. Then of course there's always the fear that they won't open on inpact.

I'm also curious to hear what you guys have to say about fall away rests. I shoot a whisker bisket, and I have to admit that it's the best hunting rest I've ever tried. Problem is that I'm having a hard time getting it to tune on my old Mathews FX. It will shoot field points into a 2" group at 40 yards if I do my part. It will shoot my thunderheads into a slightly larger group, but the point of impact will be about 5 inches lower at 30 yards. Can't get it to shoot a bullet hole on paper either. It's always tail high a little bit. Anyway, been thinking of trying a different rest. I'll probably put my old Bo-doodle on and see if the problem goes away, but I though while I was asking questions I would ask about the fall away rests too. Are they noisy? How easy is it it have an arrow fall off the rest while sitting in the stand? How often do you have to do maintance to the part that cocks the rest up?

Just curious,
Mark

[acal]

I have used fall away rests for quite some time.

I have heard to many negative reports on fly open types of broadheads from a lot of my former customers that I shoot archery with. Some hunters like them. Tune your bow and your arrow with a fixed blade head and you will not have the problems that are associated with fly open heads.

I prefer the Savage Drop Away rest which is magnetic in operation. It is consistent from shot to shot in operation irregardless of the weather. It is not dependent upon a cord or wire that can cause shot inconsistency due to slipping, etc.

I do have a NAP Quicktune 2100 fallaway rest. It is a quality rest and does not require a partner or "rocket scientist" to help set it up. It does have a cable or rope that can cause problems as I indicated above.

For more accuracy with broadheads, especially fixed blades, a drop away is the way to go. It is much easier to tune and get an interence free shot than the shoot through rests, etc. They are more forgiving, depending on the design, when poor shooting form is a poblem.

[bubba]

I cant speak for the NAP mechanicals, but I can give you lotsa feedback about 2 bladed vortex broadhead ( www.mar-den.com ), I have used all the weights and currently shoot the 75 grains with a 2inch cut. I once shot a deer on an angle with the 125gr (2.75in cut) and left a almost 7 inch gash on the out going side and sliced ( like a laser did it ) 3 ribs going out.

The only time I have had it fail to cut a rib was a 40yard shot on the out going side when the tip hit the perfect center of the rib, crushed it, but didnt go thru, mind you I shoot about 58 lbs......
The deer ran almost 50 yards

I have never had one fail, and if one did fail, the it would still provide a 7/8inch cutting surface, hard to beat that in my book. Not to mention no worries about tuning, they fly like field points, some fixed blades do that, some dont especially at higher speeds, I shoot 250fps on the chrony
at about 6 yards.

for what it is worth, thats my feedback.

-bubba

[SW]

I have used Spitfires from the year they came out. Never a failure - 0ver 30 medium game animals killed. They are bullet proof IMO. I also use 100 and 125 Thunderheads(I shoot more than 1 bow - different set-ups). The accuracy with the SPs is no better than with the THs. Both hit low and left of the field points for me. I haven't found the "fp and expandible having the same impact point). I reuse my Spitfires and my Thunderheads. I have a Spitfire that has taken 6-7 deer and a Thunderhead that has bear, turkey, and deer to its credit. Somepeople think I'm tight.
I use a NAP drop away rest for it's shooter forgiveness qualities. I need forgiveness every time I shoot my bow: have already received it eternally . I can shoot smaller groups with the drop away than I can with the Whisker Bisket. The groups with the Thunderheads are at least as good as with the Spitfires. I do best with blades @ 10,2, and 6 o'clock. If the arrow is the least bit underspined the expandibles do better. With properly spined arrows, it just is about the same.

[mike3132]

thelefthand said:

Hey guys, just looking on some feedback on the Spitfire broad heads by NAP. I've shot thunderheads for years, but I'm considering trying the spitfires this year. Seems lke a good concept and a good design. Anyone out there have any good or bad feedback? I've always woried about the blades being a little weaker and breaking when they hit a rib or something. Then of course there's always the fear that they won't open on inpact.

I'm also curious to hear what you guys have to say about fall away rests. I shoot a whisker bisket, and I have to admit that it's the best hunting rest I've ever tried. Problem is that I'm having a hard time getting it to tune on my old Mathews FX. It will shoot field points into a 2" group at 40 yards if I do my part. It will shoot my thunderheads into a slightly larger group, but the point of impact will be about 5 inches lower at 30 yards. Can't get it to shoot a bullet hole on paper either. It's always tail high a little bit. Anyway, been thinking of trying a different rest. I'll probably put my old Bo-doodle on and see if the problem goes away, but I though while I was asking questions I would ask about the fall away rests too. Are they noisy? How easy is it it have an arrow fall off the rest while sitting in the stand? How often do you have to do maintance to the part that cocks the rest up?

Just curious,
Mark

Download the tuning guide which is the 4th one from the top. It will show you how to tune your bow for field points and broadheads. Good luck, mike

www.eastonarchery.com/downloads.asp

[nitro101047]

I too use the spits and have killed several deer with them..never have had a failure and i never shoot them till i have a deer in sight...field pts seem to hit the same for me