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30-06
Apr 7, 2007 10:51:27 GMT -5
Post by redneckrob on Apr 7, 2007 10:51:27 GMT -5
what kind of loads are you guys loading for 30-06 loads for deer and varmint?
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30-06
Apr 7, 2007 13:38:19 GMT -5
Post by RAF on Apr 7, 2007 13:38:19 GMT -5
I'm using IMR 4895 with 150 grain Sierra SP BT bullet. My powder charge was at the max from my reloading manual (Lymans 47th Edition). Produced MOA groups at 2950 FPS.
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30-06
Apr 9, 2007 19:58:18 GMT -5
Post by Swede on Apr 9, 2007 19:58:18 GMT -5
For deer hunting Pennsylvania & West ByGod I also use Sierra 150 SP BT over 52.8 grains of 4064.
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30-06
Apr 9, 2007 22:18:16 GMT -5
Post by RAF on Apr 9, 2007 22:18:16 GMT -5
I'm also working on a load for my Remington Model 4 auto loader. I 'm using the same powder charge but for this I'm trying the Nosler accubond in 150 grain. Earlier attempts with this rifle were unsuccessful but likely due to the size of the brass. Testing should be done this week as range is now almost usable.
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30-06
May 14, 2007 18:42:10 GMT -5
Post by Jim Marcum on May 14, 2007 18:42:10 GMT -5
Raf after reading some of your post regarding problems with the model 4. I have a model 4 in 243 .The first thing I did when I decided to reload for a s/auto was call RCBS and order a factory small base die. It came in about 4 weeks and it runs like a clock. If you want to rid yourself of this problem then order a factory spec's 30 06 die. LOL Jim
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30-06
May 14, 2007 23:13:47 GMT -5
Post by RAF on May 14, 2007 23:13:47 GMT -5
Jim I did buy an RCBS small base die. What I did next is measure the brass on a factory round that works in this rifle. I then duplicated the brass, as close as possible to the factory dimensions. The bullets I tried all worked perfectly except the velocity was way over factory 150 grain bullets muzzle velocity. I'm talking 3030 FPS. My gunsmith cautioned that the charge was too hot and I ran the risk of damaging the rifle and to back it off. I took it down 1.5 grains and it still functioned good but the muzzle velocity was a disappointment, well below factory. I have since split the difference but haven't had a chance to test them yet. I'm guessing they'll work good and velocity should be close to factory. If that's the case, I'll zero the gun and move on.
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30-06
May 15, 2007 6:55:33 GMT -5
Post by rambo1937 on May 15, 2007 6:55:33 GMT -5
RAF I was not speaking of a small base die they produce. I'm referring to a special product to reduce the cases to factory specs. It actually has a stamp on the top that says (S P Small base 243.
Jim
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30-06
May 15, 2007 23:12:41 GMT -5
Post by RAF on May 15, 2007 23:12:41 GMT -5
Jim, that would have to reduce the size of the brass even more that the small base dies do. Never heard of those dies. That sounds interesting.
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30-06
Apr 19, 2008 13:58:55 GMT -5
Post by esmd on Apr 19, 2008 13:58:55 GMT -5
I'm using IMR 4895 with 150 grain Sierra SP BT bullet. My powder charge was at the max from my reloading manual (Lymans 47th Edition). Produced MOA groups at 2950 FPS. Interesting that you mention IMR 4895, and in a later post, the 150gr Nosler Accubond. I'm getting ready to work up a new load for my .30-06, I'll be shooting 150 grain Nosler Accubonds, using Winchester brass. I was going to go with Federal Large Rifle Primers (#210 I believe?) but am certainly flexible on that. My main question is which powder to go with. I've pretty much got it narrowed down to IMR 4895 or Alliant Reloader 19. The 4895 looks impressive due to it's combination of top end velocity and reasonable PSI, while the Reloader 19 is listed as the most overall accurate 150gr load in the Nosler #5 reloading manual, also with good velocity, thought about 110 fps less than the 4895. I just went back to IMR's website to look at their reloading info again, and I see that now they've got combined info for both IMR and Hodgdon powders. So after comparing velocities and pressures, H4350, H380, and IMR 4895 seem to be the best combinations of high velocity and acceptable PSI. H4350 is the fastest max load, but it's a compressed max load, so I'll probably X that off. That leaves H380 and the IMR 4895. H380 is a ball powder, correct? Any positives or negatives with that versus a stick powder like IMR 4895? The H380 has just a hair less velocity at max load then the IMR 4895, with less PSI (51,700 versus 56,700), however the IMR 4895 has a higher starting load velocity, so if I have to go with that for accuracy, I'd lose less velocity with the IMR 4895. So I'm inclined to stick with that. Then there's still the Reloader 19 thing, which according to the Nosler book was their most accurate powder with the 150gr BT/Accubond. I don't have my book with me here at work, but Alliant's website lists a max load with velocity of 2895, which is a little over 100 fps less than what IMR 4895 is supposed to deliver. The pressure is quite a bit less though, at 50,900 PSI. Oy. I'm going to give myself a headache. At this point, I'm leaning towards getting a pound each of IMR 4895 and Reloder 19, and seeing what's what.
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30-06
Apr 20, 2008 9:45:25 GMT -5
Post by herman on Apr 20, 2008 9:45:25 GMT -5
53.6 grs of R-15 has been my favorite load in the 30/06 with a 150 gr bullet.58.5 psi.according to allaint powder. If you want to shoot a 165 gr bullet the IMR 4350 works great with 57.5 grs. Allways start low and work up. 53.6 is allaint's max load and 57.0 is Hornadys max load.
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30-06
Apr 20, 2008 10:04:20 GMT -5
Post by RAF on Apr 20, 2008 10:04:20 GMT -5
There are plenty of powders that will work with the 30-06. originally I chose 4895. I used info from my reloading manual. Worked up a load and got it to where could shoot 1 inch groups. It's worked great on deer. When I worked up a load for my auto loader I again used 4895, mainly because that's what I had on hand. I chose the accubond for the balistic tip. I do have H380 on hand but that my powder of choice for a 22-250 and never considered it for the 30-06. Sorry, I don't have any experience with R19
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30-06
Apr 20, 2008 11:09:32 GMT -5
Post by esmd on Apr 20, 2008 11:09:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the input, gents. I think I'm leaning towards the 4895, I've heard from several folks that've had good luck with it. If I can't find a load I'm satisfied with, then I can try the R-19.
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30-06
Apr 20, 2008 12:10:21 GMT -5
Post by RAF on Apr 20, 2008 12:10:21 GMT -5
Seems to me that the load we settled on with the bolt action we made for was right near or at the max in the Lymans reloading manual. That might differ slightly in your rifle
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30-06
Apr 20, 2008 17:36:41 GMT -5
Post by esmd on Apr 20, 2008 17:36:41 GMT -5
RAF, thanks. According to Nosler, there max load was the most accurate for that particular powder, but I plan on starting at the minimum load and working up to see what's most accurate in my Rem 700.
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30-06
Apr 20, 2008 20:51:34 GMT -5
Post by RAF on Apr 20, 2008 20:51:34 GMT -5
esmd, that's the right choice. That's what I did. Safety first
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