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Post by walt cowan on Jan 18, 2005 20:26:24 GMT -5
if a balanced load for a 12 gauge is 1 oz at 1100 fps, what is a balanced load for a 10 gauge? these things keep me up at night......  |
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Post by Rifleman on Jan 19, 2005 10:17:53 GMT -5
1 oz at 1100 is a LIGHT load for a 12 gauge. What do you mean by a balanced load?
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Post by walt cowan on Jan 19, 2005 19:31:30 GMT -5
something to do with bore size, shot collum. not to heavy or light, ballistictly ballance. wish i had the art. or the aurtors name. it was in gun digest a few years ago.
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Post by Rifleman on Jan 19, 2005 19:45:39 GMT -5
Well, walt then I cannot give you a good answer by the authors definition. Too me a 1oz load for a 20 gauge, 1 1/8 -1 1/4 for a 12, and 1 3/4 for a 10 is what I would call middle of the road loads for each gauge.
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Post by Predator II on Jan 20, 2005 6:44:07 GMT -5
A balanced load in a MZ loading shotgun is when you use the same dipper to dip the shot and the powder.
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Post by walt cowan on Jan 20, 2005 9:39:42 GMT -5
1 3/4 load is what i was looking for. i use 10 for turkey and just want to lighten it up for small game. yeah, i could use a smaller gauge but, the 10 is so much more fun. ;D thanks rifleman  |
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Post by Rifleman on Jan 20, 2005 11:43:06 GMT -5
Walt if you are gonna use the big 10 on small game,I think I might try a 1.5 oz if there is such an animal.that would still be = to a 12 gauge 2 3/4 baby magnum load!
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Post by DaveK on Jan 21, 2005 6:54:39 GMT -5
Small game? I have had good results with 1 1/8oz. and 2 3/4 dr. of 2F Goex loads in a 10ga. Nice shooting, doves drop and clays break. I did/do have a 1 3/4oz. load developed for turkey but never shot a turkey. Just patterned it and checked penetration. I no longer have the 10ga. but I do have all my testing results.
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Post by walt cowan on Jan 21, 2005 13:09:26 GMT -5
i have used baby mags on long range tree rats for years, rabbits too. 4's and 6's. just didn't know any better. found light loads when i started after quail and grouse. killed more trees than grouse lol. guess i'm gonna have to start reloading. ;D
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Post by RandyWakeman on Feb 26, 2005 14:56:52 GMT -5
if a balanced load for a 12 gauge is 1 oz at 1100 fps, what is a balanced load for a 10 gauge? these things keep me up at night...... The balanced load is normally a "squared" shot column, as in the 3/4 oz. 28 ga. |
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Post by MarkKw on Feb 26, 2005 20:52:10 GMT -5
I was always told "balanced load" was defined as Randy says, shot column is equally high as it is wide. My experience is that this means pretty much nothing as far as performance goes.
I noted several folks stated BP loads but I assume you're asking about nitro loads here. No matter, the same seems to hold true no matter what powder you're using. Best performing loads for me are those where powder charge is not equal to the shot charge. I tend to prefer a slower burning powder with a heavy shot charge and I mean proportionally. If I'm loading a light load for the 12 say 3/4 or 7/8 ounce, I look for the slowest burning powder for that load and work with it using moderate to low charge weights. The same method is used for a 2 ounce shot load in a 3" casing. Velocity means squat to performance of a shotgun load, putting pellets consistently on target is what counts. You can easily adjust your lead on a moving target to counter lower velocity loads but if you cannot know for sure if your pellets are connecting or not, you have a looser load.
Wads can also make or break a load. Personally, I'm not fond of plastic wads for 99% of my loads as built nitro card and fibers usually pattern far better. I've even made my own paper/cardboard shot cups with better success than most plastic as well. Nonetheless, not the argument here at this time anyway... ;D
Pellet size also makes up for lower velocity. Upland hunting I prerfer #5 across the board except for doves where I using #6 with a lighter shot payload. I do have a good 1.25 ounce load of #6 for my 20ga in 2.75", the same load with #5's is mean on a turkey target @ 40 yds out of a modified choke. I know a guy who used to hunt everything with his 10ga and used loads from 3/4 ounce up to 2.5 ounce depending on what he was hunting and he did good too! You can toss a load of #5's at a much slower velocity and maintain better pattern control while still having the same hitting powder as the lighter #6's. Consistent Pellet count is everything in shotgunning.
While I've found this theory to hold true for most guns and gauges, there is always that one $#@^%& that will proove the opposite. Save up some news paper! ;D
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Post by Blue-Dot-37.5 on May 10, 2005 22:48:42 GMT -5
I can't answer the balanced load question, but for a reduced shot payload, you will still have to use some sort of filler to keep the hull full for a good crimp. (cardboard spacers - over/undershot wads, etc. even with plastic wads) I've got a recipe around here somewhere for 3/4 oz of shot in a 12 ga. hull for a no recoil load. 1150 fps I believe. Great for kids!
Blue-Dot-37.5
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