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Post by Rifleman on Jan 23, 2005 18:52:23 GMT -5
I cast my vote for the Glock, preferably in 40 or 45 acp.
Accurate,reliable. Easy to operate,safe. Less training time required. Fast into action. But I do think the man is more important then the gun. I sure would not have wanted to meet Bill Jordan if he had a SW 36 with wadcutters, and I had a Glock 21 with a fist full of mags. Just trying to stimulate discussion and thought. So cast your votes and give an opinion. It should be fun!
Rifleman
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Post by tcmech on Jan 23, 2005 19:55:08 GMT -5
Having been in situations where I needed a gun with a pretty decent amount of stress I think that the glock is the best pick for a carry / combat gun. I don't want to worry about safetys or cocking the hammers. I would prefer to keep the trigger pull the same all the time, so I would rather not have a da/sa auto. I don't think that it would matter much in a real life adrenline pumping situation though. If you are talking about match shooting I would take a sa auto like the high power, or 1911. Second choice would be a sa, or sa/da that allowed a cocked and locked carry. Just my 2 cents. Craig
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Post by TKO on Jan 23, 2005 23:12:46 GMT -5
For a properly trained operator a M1911 variant.
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Post by Douglas Blair on Jan 24, 2005 11:40:12 GMT -5
I voted for the Colt 1911. The Glock may be a good gun but darn I can't get past the looks and all that plastic they are made of.
Again the Colt model 1911 is a tried and true sidearm.
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Post by JoeN on Jan 25, 2005 9:26:46 GMT -5
Ibought a combat commander 21 years ago and it is still my favorite. But my AMT 380 backup fits nicely in my back pocket and in 1 day I took 2 cows and 2 pigs with it so in a jam it will do.
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Post by bubba on Jan 25, 2005 16:51:09 GMT -5
dont forget my little "CAR" I like to drive with :  -bubba |
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Post by Rifleman on Jan 25, 2005 17:17:40 GMT -5
Kahr/Keltec, which is the better pistol?
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Post by bubba on Jan 25, 2005 17:33:56 GMT -5
the kel-tec only wins in two categories: 1) weight 2) concealablility the kahr is a better (quality) weapon hands down the little 40 I have is 16oz - nice. the 380 keltec I have is 8 oz - nice too, they both have their moments  I have a nice little springfield 40S&W 1911 micro compact coming friday to a bedroom near you ! that should be nice too -bubba |
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Post by TKO on Jan 25, 2005 18:40:55 GMT -5
bubba, I have always loved the proportions of the Kahr PM40. NICE looking piece of equipment. |
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Post by Rifleman on Jan 25, 2005 18:48:23 GMT -5
Bubba you better sell that springfield, it is a problem. Not making fun here, they really have their problems.
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Post by bubba on Jan 25, 2005 20:53:06 GMT -5
I have heard that - one trip to the factory fixed my buds....... runs like a champ now........ time will tell, I appreciate the heads up.......... but that thing fits me like a gluv..... small hands.............. big.................... heart |
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Post by IndianaHunter on Feb 1, 2005 19:04:43 GMT -5
Rifleman, this is a very good question. As many have written there are really two answers. For a full size combat handgun I think caliber is more important that manufacture. Then I believe its capacity so I tend to go with double stacked magazines in .45 ACP as my personal choice. I guess I’d lean towards the HK USP 45 ACP. It also is easily accessorized with all the goodies needed in a tactical situation. Now for a self defense firearm I would go with a wheel gun that is easy to conceal and almost idiot proof in a stressful situation. A small frame 2” barreled .38 Special is what I’m currently carrying.  |
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Post by PPosey on May 27, 2005 10:05:00 GMT -5
Glock 10mm,,
either full grown 20 like mine or the smaller version.
I counld't care less what my personal defense gun looks like,,,,just that it works.....
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Post by a45gunslinger on Sept 3, 2005 21:26:50 GMT -5
My pick is the 1911. reason being is that I carry conceled daily.. and if someone god forbid get smy gun from me he has to at least know how to operate it to get a shot off. Glocks are nice, as a matter of fact i've got two, I just think they belong in retention holsters Kevin harnphanich.zippyvideos.com/4134030941028826/000_0441/ |
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Post by IndianaBuck on Dec 30, 2006 23:04:15 GMT -5
My selection was other, unless we consider the Para-Ordnance Warthog as a 1911 clone. Easy to carry - Easy to Hold - Easy to fire 11ea .45 at undesireables. I love mine. I used to carry Para's LDA single stack - still love that pistol!
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Jan 2, 2007 21:55:00 GMT -5
I voted for a wheel gun. I carry a 4 inch Ruger GP100 in .357 Mag with Fed 125 gr hollow points in the summer and 158 grain hollow points in the winter. (Thicker hides in the winter)
The sight radius is long enough for accurate shooting, sights are adjustable, and is small enough for creative concealment. 6 shots ought to be enough with not as much worry for jamming. Practice is very cheap with reloads.
My "house" gun is a Ruger MkII .22 bull barrel. Having 10 shots, good sights and the ability to get them all off accurately...fast....without rupturing my eardrums in an enclosed 12 X 12 room...in the dark...with little muzzle flash leaves me thinking multiple head shots inside 20 feet is a very real possibility.
Thank goodness that in 15 years of owning/carrying a pistol, I've never needed it. In the event that I do, I shoot them 1000's of times a year and both are very accurate and pointable.
I do think that situational awareness, marksmanship and reliability will trump any caliber considerations in most cases. In otherwords, if you like what you have...use that.
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Post by ozark on Jul 12, 2007 20:26:29 GMT -5
I voted for the 1911 because of my own training and the safety features (grip safety, safety lock, disconnector and half cock) plus there is no question about its effectiveness. Even in the dark with much fear I could get it into action in a heartbeat. I can't imagine a situation of self defense that the 1911A1 wouldn't serve the shooter familiar with it well. For others I would advise them to use what they have trained with and feel best. Often there is no time to do more than point and shoot. I have two house guns. One a .22 Ruger semi auto pistol and the other is a shotgun loaded with 00 buck shot. IMO the shotgun is the ultimate close range protection.
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Post by billc on Jul 13, 2007 9:47:26 GMT -5
I like Sigs. P220 45ACP, P226 40 S&W for full size pistols and P239 40 S&W for carry. While there will always be a soft spot in my heart for 1911s the Sig fits and feels better to me. I prefer the da on first shot, when stress is high pulling the trigger and sight picture is enough to keep track of.
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Post by RAF on Jul 28, 2007 10:38:45 GMT -5
I carried a Glock for quite a few years. Great shooting pistol, easy handling and servicing it was a breeze. Could pretty much take it apart and reassemble blindfolded.
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Post by HighTeckRedneck on Aug 2, 2007 21:22:39 GMT -5
Although I am not impressed with the accuracy of any of the Glock I have shot I will say that they do go bang every time that you squeeze that trigger no matter what you have put them thru. That makes me have to it up and say GLOCK. The best shooting GLOCK I have ever shot is the part time weapon at work. At 10 yards I can stack them in the bottom of a pop can with it, however I have to aim approx 1 foot lower than I plan on hitting, and 8 " to the right of where I plan on hitting.
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Post by ma on Aug 6, 2007 19:04:11 GMT -5
Any in your pocket is better than any in your glove compartment or left home due to lack of concealment ability. With that said Kahr is really hard to beat for everyday CCW. My preference is the MK9. My wife carries a PM9. Here is the MK9: www.kahr.com/imgs/img_PA_m9093.jpg
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Post by Rifleman on Aug 7, 2007 6:22:03 GMT -5
HTR,
Your gun shooting off the mark is not right, I have owned 6 glocks and every one shot to point of aim or very very close to it. I would not accept a pistol off that far.
SS,
You betcha, a gun overthere is useless. I like the Kahr's they are dandy pistolas.
I once worked in a max security prison. One inmate I knew claimed to have been in several shootouts. I was intrigued and asked him how he came away unscathed. He said when he expected trouble he had his gun in hand in his coat pocket, and was never concerned about shooting holes in his pocket. He said he had to but several new coats, but that it was cheaper then going to the hospital. I am sure he was also not bashful about shooting first.
Keep in mind, this was one of the bad guys.
Makes you think...
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Post by HighTeckRedneck on Sept 8, 2007 18:28:19 GMT -5
I almost purchased a Glock last night. Had some cash burning a hole in my pocket instead of going where I actualy needed to spend it. After looking at several handguns I came home with a Springfield Armory 1911-A1 witha parkerized finish. It is going to be my new daily cary weapon
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Post by redhawk1 on Oct 25, 2007 8:12:08 GMT -5
I voted for other, you did not list the S&W 411 in S&W 40. I have one with lazer sights. I also carry a Sig 229 in 357 Sig. But 24/7 I carry a NAA 22 Mag mini.
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Post by art338wm on Feb 8, 2008 22:25:21 GMT -5
Bubba, you should look at getting a Pearce Grip Extension for your Kahr. They only cost around $10 and allow you to fit your entire hand on the gun. I have one on my XD40 SC/HC and it made a huge improvement in terms of handeling and shooting comfort. Their websiteis: www.pearcegrip.com |
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Post by minst7877 on Feb 9, 2008 0:01:18 GMT -5
Bubba, you should look at getting a Pearce Grip Extension for your Kahr. They only cost around $10 and allow you to fit your entire hand on the gun. I have one on my XD40 SC/HC and it made a huge improvement in terms of handeling and shooting comfort. Their websiteis: www.pearcegrip.comActually he no longer has his PM 40. He liked it so much he sold it to me a couple of years ago. Thanks for the link I will check it out. DC |
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Post by mike3132 on Feb 9, 2008 0:47:02 GMT -5
I vote Glock but not in the 40 or 45 range. I want a 9mm for compact carry and more control of the muzzle. A lot of law enforcement agencies are getting rid of the 40 SW and going back to the 9mm just for this reason. The 9mm gives the shooter more muzzle control which leads to better accuracy and higher carrying capacity. The new bullets designed for the 9mm have more stopping power than older style bullets that went threw and came out the other side. mike
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Post by thelefthand on Apr 15, 2008 21:45:29 GMT -5
Personally I like the 1911, but that's because I just love to shoot them. Best overall design has to be the glock. I don't own one, but I've shot a lot of them and they make a fine weapon. I also like the Kahr. I own one and carry it when the weather doesn't allow me to conceal my Kimber Compact. As much as I like the Kahr though, I wish I had bought a baby Glock instead. Then maybe I would have gotten a full size and had twice as many mags What ever I carry it has to start with at least a 4. I've never heard of a law enforcement agency going back to the 9mm. Personally, if I had to carry for a living, I would spend enough time training that muzzle control and accuracy were not a problem with larger calibers. Wait, I do that already. If a 9mm were a good viable option for a duty gun, none of our marines or spec ops would be using a 45. |
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Post by ma on Apr 17, 2008 14:02:37 GMT -5
I vote Glock but not in the 40 or 45 range. I want a 9mm for compact carry and more control of the muzzle. A lot of law enforcement agencies are getting rid of the 40 SW and going back to the 9mm just for this reason. The 9mm gives the shooter more muzzle control which leads to better accuracy and higher carrying capacity. The new bullets designed for the 9mm have more stopping power than older style bullets that went threw and came out the other side. mike Corbon 115gr DPX You will not be undergunned with this round in a 9! And amazing accurate in my Kahr MK9. |
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Post by art338wm on Dec 1, 2008 21:02:13 GMT -5
Because of its high capcity and it is dirt simple to use desin and bomb proof construction, coupled with awesome shootability I prefer the 5" Springfield XD Tacticle in 45acp.
My second choice, (but first if it was still in current production) would be the H&K Elite in 45acp.
I have shot Glocks, revolvers from S&W, Dan/W and Ruger, Barettas, H&Ks, and Sig, and perfered the feel and function of the XD and the Elite hands down over all others. Just could not afford (married now two boys in Pvt school) the Elites $1000+ price tag, so I bought the XD. FWIW, I also own a S&W 686, Dan Wesson, and a Super Redhawk, but would reach for one of my XDs first if I needed a handgun for protection, as it holds 13 rounds of 45acp (the 40S&W also holds 13) VS 6 in all my other guns.
Just my opinion.
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