Birddog6
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"If it Ain't a Smokin' & a Stinkin', it's Merely an Imitation"
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Post by Birddog6 on Jun 28, 2004 9:10:59 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, who is building on what rifles ? I am building a 1770 Lancaster, .36 cal. 42" "A" barrel with a large Siler lock & Davis set triggers & all iron trim. What is everyone else working on ? www.custommuzzleloaders.com
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Post by Douglas Blair on Jun 28, 2004 10:22:53 GMT -5
Birddog, I have 3 Jaegers to build, but don't know when I'll be able to get all the parts to build them. I know I have been "building" those rifles for over a year now but money has been short and will eventually get the parts. I also have a barrel in .45 which is 42 inches long and 15/16 across the flats I'm going to build a Rupp on. It should make a fine over the log rifle.
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Post by Douglas Blair on Jun 28, 2004 10:53:00 GMT -5
"You know, workin' for a livin sure does get in the way of my hobbies !! ha ha ! ;D"
Yes it sure does. We need to do something about that. ;D ;D
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Post by Jeff Stamper on Jun 28, 2004 14:57:47 GMT -5
A 42" Virginia flinter,modified large Chambers/Siler lock,single trigger.Next I've always admired the Martin Shell on page 276 of Kindig,it has all the bases covered as far as artistic efforts-raised and incised carving,engraving,etc.I think that a .40 in this is going to be next?
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Post by chuckia on Jun 28, 2004 19:31:48 GMT -5
finished a lancaster style 2 months ago, .45 cal., 36 inch barrel, siler flintlock, (green mount. barrel) L+R double set trigger, had some problems with the barrel laying in the stock, but birddog helped me out with that , thanks birddog. Have a stock for a John Armstrong, 13/16 inch barrel channel, have a siler lock, (perc.) and a Rice .45 cal barrel on order, round bottom rifling. plan to make a simple hunting rifle out of all this, will also use a single trigger. chuck-ia
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Post by Packdog on Jun 29, 2004 11:45:03 GMT -5
Hoping to start working on an I.H. Lancaster soon. Waiting on the lock. Picked up all the other parts at Friendship. 54 cal, 38" swamped barrel. Building it for deer hunting primarily. Packdog
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Post by Doc Will on Jun 29, 2004 12:40:45 GMT -5
Working on a Tennessee Rifle, curly maple, iron furniture, 42"x13/16" Green Mountain straight barrel in .45 cal , small siler lock, Davis double set trigger. It will be light enough to tote around the squirrell woods all day. I am saving my pennies to one day afford one of Birddog's rifles.
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Post by Packdog on Jun 29, 2004 17:16:39 GMT -5
Doc, I just finished a gun like that except 36" barrel. Fine feeling rifle and light to handle. I haven't even got to shoot it yet. The pictures are posted on the American Longrifle site in the poto album if you would like to take a look. Under Packdog's TN. I've had the pleasure of handling some of the guns Birddog has built. You sure can't go wrong there. Fine Rifles that are well built! If he could just learn how to make a sharp knife. Ha-Ha! Doc I think I remember you from the Muzzleloader Magazine board? Packdog
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Post by Packdog on Jun 30, 2004 7:54:27 GMT -5
Birddog,
Thanks for the very generous offer. I received my lock from Tip yesterday evening. Large Siler and it looks well built. I'm not sure who builds his locks but it looks like they did a good job. Thanks agin for the offer. Packdog
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Post by Doc on Jun 30, 2004 16:28:52 GMT -5
Hello Packdog, Yup thats me. I go by either Doc or DocWill, depending on which one of 2 computers I am on. I took a peek at your gun on the American Longrifles board. SWEEEET! I am glad that Doug started this board. I was worried that it might go away.
Doc Keep Yer Powder Dry
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Post by Packdog on Jul 1, 2004 8:06:42 GMT -5
Good to hear from you again Doc. And that you are building. Yes, I'm glad Doug decided to move the board and keep it going. Packdog
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Trina
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Post by Trina on Jul 1, 2004 11:27:52 GMT -5
I am currently working on a Issac Haines, 50 cal. , 38 in. B Barrel. The barrel is inletted and I am getting ready to do the dovetailing on the barrel. Packdog thanks for telling me abotu this site... looks like a nice friendly place to be Still think you shoulda made that gun a capper instead of a flinter It might singe yur eyebrows or sumthin T
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Post by Packdog on Jul 1, 2004 13:25:15 GMT -5
Trina,
Welcome to the board! Glad you took a look and decided to post. Good luck with the I.H. ! I know it'll be a shooter.
We'll break you from that dependency on technology. Ha-ha. What eyebrows? Thems been gone for a while now. Packdog
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Post by Douglas Blair on Jul 1, 2004 13:31:06 GMT -5
Welcome Trina. I think you will find a flinter isn't that bad and won't get your eyebrows. I think you will find this board as well as all the other boards on this site informative as well as a pleasant place to come to. Tell your friends about this site. We are going to start a new board just for women hunters if we can get enough registered. Mamaflinter( my wife) can''t wait.
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Trina
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Post by Trina on Jul 1, 2004 14:30:45 GMT -5
Hi again, thanks for the warm welcome, I am actually pretty new at the muzzleloading shooting and gunbuilding, my brother has done both for years and I think is pretty much of a die hard flinter. I dont know that I ever will be a die hard flinter, but I sure love to give people a hard time about being such... but always in a friendly way ;D... Hubby and I are pretty active in the muzzleloading gun club here and enjoy the summer rendezvous. I was never much for shooting until I picked up my hubbys muzzleloader and found it didnt kick me like a mule, as far as hunting goes metal squirrels and rabbits are about as close as I get to hunting... I have nothing against hunting either, hubby is a avid hunter and once dispatched I have no problem helping to ready it (deer or elk) for the freezer. This gun I am building can go either flinter or cap although right now I am working towards the caplock. Again thanks for the welcome...... T
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Post by Packdog on Jul 1, 2004 14:57:50 GMT -5
Trina, Stop now and run to the light! Get as far away from those caps as possible. They are effecting your judgement. ;D Does your husband shoot a cap lock or flint? Packdog
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Post by Trina on Jul 1, 2004 15:19:17 GMT -5
Packdog, run to the light? lol you have been breathin way to much gun finishing fumes lol. the only way to go is caps... no hangfires. no pssst right up by your eye.. hey maybe thats the light your seein :> I think we will have to agree to disagree, but I will convert you hehehe.... DH's is a caplock as well... So is your IH done yet ;D
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Post by OlFlinter on Jul 1, 2004 15:36:37 GMT -5
Trina: Welcome to the board & hope you enjoy it & come her often.
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Trina
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Post by Trina on Jul 1, 2004 16:32:09 GMT -5
Thank you for the welcome Doug and Olflinter, I am sure I will come here often, if that is, you all dont end up runnin me off because of the aggravation I am however very serious about building my rifle and always looking to learn more about it... looks like I am in the right spot ;D Thanks again
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Post by Douglas Blair on Jul 1, 2004 16:34:40 GMT -5
Trina, If possible you need to shoot a flintlock before you decide on either. A flintlock isn't the slow unreliable gun it was made out to be and if you have ever saw the new version of the last of the Mohicans it pretty well shows how fast a good flintlock fires. Granted in certain circles the caplock is more reliable like in wet weather. Also precautions can be taken to make the flintlock almost sure fire in wet weather to. The reason I said you need to find someone who has a good flintlock and shoot it is because you will either love it or hate it. The flintlock does take more "getting used to"" though.
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Post by Douglas Blair on Jul 1, 2004 16:38:51 GMT -5
"Running you off because of the aggravation." What aggravation?? This message board it to USE not stare at. ;D I'm pleased as punch you are here and you should ask your hubby about taking a look at this site too.
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Trina
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Post by Trina on Jul 1, 2004 16:49:46 GMT -5
I have access to good flintlocks, but just have never shot one.... This gun I am building I have already bought a caplock for, but they say its not to bad to change it. My brother has built quite a few very nice flintlocks, (thats all he builds)... I will see If I can shoot one of his, (they are all right handed though).....I hope he still has some smaller ones around ... the one he built and shoots is a 60 cal. I know It rattles his cage occasionally ;D
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Post by Douglas Blair on Jul 1, 2004 17:30:26 GMT -5
I take it you are left handed. If you shoot one of his you might want to dress in long sleeves just in case. But I don't think the lock being "on the wrong side" will bother you that much because of the double flintlock rifles.
If you already have a percussion lock for your gun I'd stay with it and later build a flintlock. Do we really need an excuse to build another gun?? If so you now have one ;D
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Birddog6
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Post by Birddog6 on Jul 1, 2004 17:36:38 GMT -5
Trina: Welcome aboard. It really makes no dif. on the RH or LH to shoot them & try them out. If you are a lefty, the LH rifle will be a lil more comfortable, but I shoot the LH rifles from the righthanded position all the time & I have never had a problem with them. One thing that allot of people get in their head is the flash.... And I alway say "What Flash, I was watching the target". I never see it & don't even know it happened til the gun goes off. Just concentrate on the sights & target & forget it is a flintlock & you will be fine. It is not gonna hurt ya & if it did, I dang sure wouldn't be a shooting them & building them all the time. Always wear safety glasses when shooting a flintlock or a percussion. Always wear safety glasses when dry firing either one also. As for the 60 cal rifle you refer to, ask him to down load it so the recoil is not so much & give it a try. He can load it with about 50-60 grains of FF & recoil will be mild & you will be OK. If the ignition on the flintlock is correct, it will soon be second nature to shoot it & almost as fast as a percussion & you will love it. www.customflintlocks.com
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Post by TSK on Jul 1, 2004 22:15:36 GMT -5
Hey Birddog6, My bench if full of projects as I write this. I have a walnut stocked early southern .50 cal. flinter to finish as a gift to my son-in-law. All shaped and ready for some carving and an inlay or two, then the finish. The wood for it came from a walnut tree that grew across the road from his boy-hood home. Then I have a percussion Tenn. 36 cal. to get at for someone in California. I have the parts here for a heavy barreled halfstock Hawken that'll be for me, and have begun to gather parts for an early Va. flint 40 cal. I "need" for plinking. Oh, almost forgot the .50 cal. flint Kentucky pistol that is waiting to be built. With all these guns to build I should stay out of trouble for a while. TSK
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Birddog6
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Post by Birddog6 on Jul 1, 2004 22:50:35 GMT -5
TSK: Hey that is great.... Sound like ya have plenty to do. I told my wife today this working for a living is sure putting a crimp in my hobbie time ! ha ha ! She said just don't forget which work pays the bills...... ha ha ! At that point I just kinda snuck out of there as I took that as a good time to exit & go hide in the basement... ha ha !
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Post by Fatdutchman on Jul 3, 2004 16:54:28 GMT -5
I have just started a 1750 era New England gun. 16ga, plain cherry stock, Big round faced Ketland lock. Of rather plain construction, something on the order of some of the Hills guns. A nice "ordinary" gun.
Also, just bought a barrel to make an Early Reading gun. .58 rifled and a "shell curl" sugar maple stock. I got to handle the pre-rev Reading gun (Shumway's number 21) and am in love. This is now my absolute favorite type ;D. There are LOTS of details that you CANNOT get right from pictures. I have one for myself planned for a figured cherry stock blank.
Both are for no one in particular, just whoever wants them. Probably will go on Track of the Wolf. I've had pretty good luck there so far.
This message has been edited....I could always stand a little editing.
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Post by Packdog on Jul 3, 2004 23:42:09 GMT -5
Chris, Welcome to the board! Glad to see you posting here. I saw the figured Cherry blanks you and Birddog picked up at Friendship. They will make some great looking guns! Packdog
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DaveK
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Post by DaveK on Jul 5, 2004 18:25:56 GMT -5
I have seen some wood that if a guy made a knife handle out of it instead of a dbl. flint, the knife should be used so the maker couldn't reproduce! ;D
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Birddog6
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Post by Birddog6 on Jul 6, 2004 6:44:31 GMT -5
hey.....you had your chance to own it ! ha ha ! Course, since we know each other it cost you $100. more than anyone else ! What are friends for, right ? ha ha ! ;D
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