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Post by bowbender6 on Nov 30, 2008 11:27:32 GMT -5
Another doe 85 yards. 60 gr N120- Double lung – ran about 80 yards – not much expansion , but not much meat damage either
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Post by gjs4 on Nov 30, 2008 16:24:31 GMT -5
That thrid doe was basically ruined.  Hit the back of the front shoulder, ran along the spine breaking vertebrae, entered the front of the back leg, went through the muscled and leg bone and stopped at the back skin. Yowzas! The lead completely separated from the copper. Petal-ed beautifully and the lead mushroomed nicely. My scale is broke but from eye shot it appears to have retained the vast majority of its weight. |
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Post by Rifleman on Dec 1, 2008 5:18:53 GMT -5
added 7 more for 74
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Post by 153 on Dec 1, 2008 7:16:38 GMT -5
Another doe at 199 lasered yards.Double lunged,pass thru,went 70 yards with no blood trail.Same size entrance and exit holes.This is a very accurate load for me but as soon as I get time to resight my ML I will be going back to the 300XTP,I get a lot better bullet performance.
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Post by Rifleman on Dec 1, 2008 15:05:22 GMT -5
153- As long as the lions share of your shooting is done at under 200 yds no reason to go with the expensive BO, shoot over that alot or just want to be prepared for it, the BO is the ticket. Need alot of penetration, keep the BO. Going for typical whitetail bullet performance, the xtp gets the nod.
75 total so far gents!
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Post by Rifleman on Dec 2, 2008 4:45:10 GMT -5
Guys I might be out of the picture for a few days so if you get a BO kill go ahead and make a post and when I get back online I will tally things up. Thanks Rman
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Post by bluerock1 on Dec 3, 2008 13:27:50 GMT -5
My 14 year old daughter got a doe in first season. BO with 40 grains of 110. 2125fps. Recoil not bad and good accuracy. This makes 4 years in a row she has gotten her deer. She really wants a buck so we will be out this weekend to try.
Bluerock1
Update: She shot a 6 pt. this weekend during second season. This was her first buck and she was really excited! I suggested I might have to find her a 10ML of her own for next year and she said I should find a new one for me, as she liked this one! It's been a great season!
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Post by mdf99 on Dec 3, 2008 19:35:15 GMT -5
1 Doe, chest shot, BO exited just behind ribs, DRT
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Post by trophybucks on Dec 3, 2008 23:05:15 GMT -5
Rifleman,
Chalk up a 10-point. 90 yards, quartering to me. Entrance was slightly high on the left shoulder and exit was through the second rib on the right side. 60 gr VV N-120, BO with BCR and Fed 209. He high kicked, ran about 30 yards and was done. Gross score in the low 130's Boone and Crockett.
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Post by iowamuzzleloader on Dec 3, 2008 23:50:37 GMT -5
All right then. I've been absolutely itchin to break out the MLII after a heartbreaking miss at a giant with my bow. I took an easy shot for granted and left all rules of good archery form, to take credit for a MISS at a very easy range at a near 180 typical.
I took the MLII out for the holiday doe season in Iowa which allows all guns (except center fires, at least where I hunt) 3 day season & went out last day to set personal best for a distance shot.
Ended up taking a doe at 240 yards. Interesting though. It was a stiff crossbreeze at about 15mph I'd guess. I was looking for a 300 yard shot but the furthest target I could get was 240.
Interesting because I don't have alot of experience playing the windage and I way overestimated the needed windage adjustment. With the crossbreeze I aimed right at her guts thinking it would blow the bulllet into her vitals. I hit her right in the guts where I amied but still ended up with a lethal shot.
Now the breeze where I sat was prevelant, but either the downrange crossbreeze was way less, or these 300 grain Barnes Originals at 2350fps don't drift much at all. Since I was shooting down a fairly narrow but long feild, it's possible the downrange crossbreeze was quite a bit less than I was feeling since my position was more open than where the target was standing, or the bullets just don't blow as much as anticipated.
Non the less, a new personal best from 234 to now 240yards with the BO and 72.5 gn of R 10x.
You ALL will now if I get the big guy with the MLII since I will likely take out ads in every paper in the country. I've seen him 6 times the first being the lame shot I took with a bow.
Just a freindly reminder to all, make the shot first, then look to see if you got him. Sorry I couldn't post pictures of him. I've let myself down but intend to show him to you during either shotgun or Late Muzzleloader season. BTY I only use a MLII for shotgun season If I decide to try for him then.
No bullet recovery.
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Post by ChrisChampion on Dec 4, 2008 16:06:54 GMT -5
I shoot the BO at about 2400 fps. At 250 yds a 10 mph or so 90* cross wind will blow the bullet about 6 or 7". If you crunch the numbers on any of the ballistic calculators the actual wind drift I have witnessed is about 2/3 of what the calculators say.
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Post by iowamuzzleloader on Dec 4, 2008 16:55:07 GMT -5
Thanks Chris. I guess about twice that windage. Your observation plus the theory of the downrange wind being less, probably only required 3-4 inches.
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Post by wicket on Dec 5, 2008 9:33:39 GMT -5
button buck last night 205yrds BO black crush rib,67gr 4198 high shoulder drt.  |
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Post by wicket on Dec 5, 2008 23:03:16 GMT -5
cold night tonight around -7c...not sure what that is in F. 20 mins before dark a nice mature doe stepped out at the end of the field. I have been hunting with my 70 yr old dad this week here in southern ontarios late gun season. Dad wanted to hunt down the field some so we could cover more ground. well the doe steps out and starts to feed nice and calmly until it sees my dad a couple hundred yards from her. As my dad gets older his ablility to sit still has been radically impaired. between eating little chocolate bars and blowing his nose and adjusting his postion he just isnt stealthy lol. anyways the doe can tell the guy eating and doing a jig at the end of the field shouldnt be there and gets nervous. I settled the zeiss crosshairs on her chest and squeezed the trigger. at 225 paces the barnes original smashed thru both lungs and she ran 80 yards before dropping. The thing that I have noticed the last two seasons hunting with a ml2 is that I have so much confidence in my rifles ability that I dont think twice about shooting 200plus yards if the conditions are right. The absolute best thing about this years hunt is that I have been lucky enough to share it with my dad. 2 deer in 2 nights I am a lucky, grateful man. ps I have to thank guys like panhandle who sent me some sabots for the bo that I couldnt find here in Canada. I have learned so much from this site and from all the posters great folks all. I have been fortunate enough to "pay it forward" with info, sabots and bullets to some new savage shooters here in ontario. still 2 days of season here and to all those still hunting goodluck and be safe wicket  |
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Post by iowamuzzleloader on Dec 6, 2008 22:35:01 GMT -5
One more today. 2 total now.
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Post by mshm99 on Dec 7, 2008 15:48:58 GMT -5
Tuff conditions here for the 2nd Illinois gun season. Only one credit to the BO. Button buck,60yds, broadside,double lung,travelled thirty yds. Got one more chance weekend January 16,2009.
mshm
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Post by tar12 on Dec 7, 2008 22:05:35 GMT -5
Add one more BO failure to the list!Little doe at 35 yds.
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Post by sliceman on Dec 8, 2008 17:30:08 GMT -5
Ontario Dec special muzzleloader season
Sliceman-doe @35 yds, pass-thru
My son-doe @100 yds, pass-thru
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Panhandle
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They're Coming Back
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Post by Panhandle on Dec 11, 2008 14:13:07 GMT -5
Buck @ 308yds. Through both front shoulders, no tracking needed.
Zen
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Post by lundy43123 on Dec 11, 2008 16:41:25 GMT -5
You can add two more to the total. Both taken last week in Ohio My son's 8 point, 110 yds  My funky buck, 177 yds  Kim |
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Post by elkboy65 on Dec 14, 2008 13:13:23 GMT -5
chalk one more up for the deadeye crew and the BO......i shot a doe last evening hunt....center brisket and exited behind left shoulder about 7-9 inches back....DRT @150 yrds....
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Post by black3 on Dec 14, 2008 16:04:38 GMT -5
Let's up the tally one more time. I shot a big doe @ 60 yards, pass through with a great blood trai. She ran/ stumbled about 40 yards.
It will be time to hunt for a good shooter next time.
black3
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Post by Flatland Hunter on Dec 15, 2008 12:05:06 GMT -5
FINALLY!!! You can put one up for me, one antlered buck (matched my daughters!)... 180 yds, BO, BCR, 70gns of Reloder 7. He was quartering away slightly, through both lungs, ran 200yds at and then past me... died 20 yds from the lane. It was an easy drag, I could tell he was hit good cause he barely made the treeline out of the cornfield. I was surprised he ran that far... I thought about a high shoulder but seeing he was that far out and I was shooting in 26 mph sustained winds gusting to 38 mph I figured I would stick with the boiler room shot. It hit right where I had the crosshairs not much drift at all. I cannot tell you how impressed I am with my set up! I am done tinkering! 70 gns RL7, 300gn BO, BCR, factory laminate stock, Black Iced (tefloned) blued barrel, Fed 209A, stock plug, homebrew vents. I only bedded the recoil lug, I was going to do the rest in the off season, don't need to! I am done! Don't need a 3rd pillar, don't need a Rayhill stock... would like one  , but don't need it to do what I am doing. I was not getting under one inch groups at 100yds consistently (most are under 1.5") but when I saw the accuracy I was getting down range (175, 250, and 300 yds) I was not concerned about it... I knew the BO would go where it was aimed. Well worth the money spent and the 2 boxes shot up BO's! Definitely a BO convert! |
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Post by Rifleman on Dec 15, 2008 12:40:37 GMT -5
Goodjob everyone, I think I got it all caught up at 93 total! BTW check out the trade board you might be surprised what I put up on the selling block |
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Dec 15, 2008 19:35:25 GMT -5
93 kills???!!!!
The cost of those 93 bullets and 93 dead dear is less the a NYS non-resident deer licence!
Nice going!
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Post by hillbill on Dec 15, 2008 22:25:03 GMT -5
deer #2 was a doe at 80 yds broadside slighty quartering to me entry low behind shoulder exit low mid ribs with lots of damage between, knocked her off her feet she then ran 30 yds before piling up. my three friends havent been as fortunate with six deer shot and only two recovered, they have given up on bos, they call them hole punchers with hole in hole out same size and almost no blood  anyway ILL be going with a 45 pacnor soon and will have 150 bos for sale 43.00 per box shipped if you take all, pm me if interested. Bill |
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Post by rbwapiti on Dec 15, 2008 23:28:00 GMT -5
5 does, 1 10 point buck...so far...more to follow.
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Post by Rifleman on Dec 16, 2008 3:02:06 GMT -5
100!
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Dec 16, 2008 6:01:57 GMT -5
hillbill,
Sounds like your friends needs to hit the vitals more often and sharpen up on marksmanship. Not sure if switching bullets will help their problems. JMO
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Post by 153 on Dec 16, 2008 6:32:08 GMT -5
hillbill,I agree with your friends the BO's should be renamed hole punchers.BO's are great shooters but IMO poor killers.Tell your friends to try the 300XTP(Non-mag).I killed my two biggest bucks this year with the BO's both were boiler room and both went over 100 yards with one going about 225 yards.One had a small blood trail and the other no blood trail.I went back to the regular 300XTP.
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, but don't need it to do what I am doing. 
